On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:27:58AM +0100, Toni Menzel wrote:
>    On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Andreas Pieber
>    <[1]anpie...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>      Basically I understand what you mean, but the question is: do we
>      identify us (as
>      ops4j community) via the location of our code and artifacts?
> 
>    Yea, i think its location independent. Just wanted to clarify this
>    interesting fact.
> 
>      btw, @nexus: as said we can still install nexus at our repos but
>      deploy the
>      artifacts to o.s.o... This would free us at least from the burden to
>      store all
>      the CI artifacts locally
> 
>    But what exactly do we use "our nexus" for ?
>    Maybe it makes things easier: I use a local nexus instance as a proxy.
>    Thats the gate everything works for me.
>    I can add several repos pretty much independently.
>    But, what do we advice users/committers to build the software ? We
>    don't require a nexus. I would like to give one nexus repo URL that
>    works and lets you build the entire Trunk of all OPS4J projects. Thats
>    also what the CI Server will use for artifact resolution. Deployment
>    Target can be the o.s.o one.
>    So bottomline: Have a OPS4J Nexus as a proxy only then ? Never deploy
>    artifacts there as a rule of thumb ?

I like this idea; if you want to use snapshots of ops4j and all ops4j artifacts
require only one external repo (repository.ops4j.org/nexus/) and the artifacts
are gathered from o.s.o, jboss, ...

+1 from my side

kind regards,
andreas

> 
>      kind regards,
>      andreas
> 
>    On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 08:02:47PM +0100, Toni Menzel wrote:
>    >    @Peter: Thanks for heads-up. Just wondered if things are in place
>    >    already because i found a Hudson (or should we say Jenkins
>    already?) on
> 
>      >    [1][2]ci.ops4j.org.
> 
>    >
>    >    @All:
>    >
>    >    Nexus.. well i was also thinking about this. Releases go to o.s.o
>    of
>    >    cause. CI builds could either go to the ops4j-snapshots on o.s.o.
>    Or we
>    >    host our own. For simplicity and less maintenance (better use that
>    for
>    >    coding) i tend to favor o.s.o.
>    >
>    >    But on the other hand not sure if its good to hand out that one
>    too.
>    >
>    >    The downside would be that we cannot rely on non o.s.o
>    dependencies
>    >    during development.. i particularly would point to Felix snapshots
>    for
>    >    example - or just in-development versions of non ops4j projects in
>    >    general.
>    >
>    >    If its not possible to put them under one repository - hint: just
>    ONE
>    >    nexus to point to, not two, not many. That is (of cause) just a
>    virtual
>    >    view not about physical repos. - then we NEED to have our own
>    nexus
>    >    instance.
>    >
>    >    Rephrasing the Infrastructure locations:
>    >
>    >    ===
>    >
>    >    Hosted by OPS4J
>    >
>    >    - CI (Hudson)
>    >
>    >    - Issue Tracking (Jira)
>    >
>    >    - Wiki (Confluence)
>    >
>    >    --
>    >
>    >    Outsourced:
>    >
>    >    - SCM (Github)
>    >
>    >    - Maven Repo (o.s.o) + Maven Central
>    >
>    >    So be clear: ALL code related things are outsourced. You can
>    develop
>    >    without OPS4J infra. But not the other way around. Just wanted to
>    make
>    >    that clear - also question this as it sounds a bit weird.
>    >
>    >    If we would compare that to other communities - not saying we
>    compare
>    >    in terms of size or anything - like Apache & Eclipse.. this is
>    very
>    >    different. Even without having looked at the Open Participation
>    >    Principle at all.
>    >
>    >    /Toni
>    >
> 
>      >    On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Andreas Pieber
>      <[2][3]anpie...@gmail.com>
> 
>    >    wrote:
>    >
>    >      btw, what is with our plans to use one central points to
>    retrieve
>    >      the artifacts
>    >      via nexus? IMHO we could make them accessible via
> 
>      >      [3][4]repositories.ops4j.org but
>      >      deploy the artifacts via [4][5]oss.sonatype.org
> 
>    >      wdyt?
>    >
>    >    On Tue, Jan 25, 2011 at 07:51:45AM +0100, Peter Neubauer wrote:
>    >    > Toni, Achim,
>    >    > I am still waiting for the new build server to be deployed,
>    guess I
>    >    > will have to check status again ...
>    >    >
>    >    > /peter
>    >    >
>    >    > On Mon, Jan 24, 2011 at 4:56 PM, Achim Nierbeck
> 
>    >    <[5][6]bcanh...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>    >    > > Hi Toni,
>    >    > >
>    >    > > since there wasn't any CI available, I had to upload the
>    pax-web
>    >    > > artefacts by myself. I think I asked about this last year on
>    the
>    >    list
>    >    > > how to do this. If I did something wrong, my apologies, but
>    there
>    >    > > wasn't much of advice on how I could provide latest snapshots.
>    We
>    >    did
>    >    > > need these for testing with Apache-Karaf.
>    >    > >
>    >    > > Regarding the infrastructure, I would recommend dropping the
>    >    > > repository in favor of the oss.sonatype.repository :)
>    >    > >
>    >    > > +1 for the Hudson stuff.
>    >    > >
>    >    > > Regards, Achim
>    >    > >
> 
>      >    > > 2011/1/24 Toni Menzel <[6][7]t...@okidokiteam.com>:
> 
>    >    > >> Hi Guys,
>    >    > >> just wonder what the current status is about the new
>    >    infrastructure and what
>    >    > >> the (planned?) steps are.
> 
>      >    > >> I see [7][8]ci.ops4j.org is available - but we should have
>      a solution
>      >    for the
>      >    > >> maven related world - i see that on [8][9]oss.sonatype.org
>      we own a
> 
>    >    > >> ops4j-snapshots repo which also contains pretty new Pax Web
>    >    snapshots
>    >    > >> (1.0.0-SNAPSHOT)
> 
>      >    > >> Question, was that a manual deploy ? Because
>      [9][10]ci.ops4j.org does
> 
>    >    not contain
>    >    > >> anything.
>    >    > >> Is it given that we do not a nexus ourselves, correct ?
>    >    > >> Any evidence that we should drop some of the (legacy?)
>    >    repositories
> 
>      >    > >> on [10][11]http://repository.ops4j.org
> 
>    >    > >> I would like to bring some of the Pax Projects, along with
>    some
>    >    new ones, to
>    >    > >> the new infrastructure (meaning Hudson and Snapshot
>    Deployments
>    >    working
>    >    > >> properly). - where to start and is there anything written
>    about
>    >    the new
>    >    > >> infrastructure somewhere yet ?
>    >    > >> --
> 
>      >    > >> Toni Menzel - [11][12]http://www.okidokiteam.com
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