Hi,

comments inline :)

regards, Achim

2012/8/3 Harald Wellmann <[email protected]>:
> UML diagrams certainly would be nice, but I'm a bit wary about
> creating yet another tool dependency.
>
> I gather that all the tools you mentioned are commercial. Even if we
> got a free license for the UML tool, there would still be the issue of
> integrating the tool into JIRA and/or Confluence.
>
> OPS4J is running on a SaaS program from Atlassian called JIRA Studio
> which is slowly degrading to a degree that I've started thinking about
> alternatives. (Keywords: Github links broken, no upgrade path from
> JIRA Studio to JIRA OnDemand without breaking URLs, OnDemand with
> Confluence 5 - the world's only Wiki without Wiki markup, and no
> control over the plugins you install in your instance).
>

good point, besides even if we get a free oss license would it still
be integrative into Confluence / Jira

> So it might in fact be better to work with an offline UML tool, commit
> the diagram sources to Github and simply upload images to Confluence
> or any other documentation system.

probably a better alternative ...

>
> Actually, I think drawing a diagram on a whiteboard and taking a photo
> is usually the most efficient way of creating a UML diagram. At least
> compared to the UML tools I've worked with in the past which are
> terribly unintuitive and enormous time eaters (Together, Enterprise
> Architect, Magic Draw, Visual Paradigm).

HA, you speak directly out of my sole, though I have to admit I don't
have a whitebaord at home to take pictures from ;)

>
> Best regards,
> Harald
>
> 2012/8/3 Björn Pollex <[email protected]>:
>> In the spirit of collaboration, it would be
>> extremely useful to have a Web-based UML-tool embedded in the Jira and
>> Confluence. There are several that have this ability:
>>
>>  * http://creately.com/
>>  * http://www.gliffy.com/
>>  * http://yuml.me/
>>  * https://www.lucidchart.com/
>>
>
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