Hi Harald, totally in your boat. I checked the ops4j@google when posting this mail and i wanted to ask you about why we send jira notifications to this list.. Something - when setting this up - was not intended actually.
Lets rethink this: Clearly, we should separate jira "spam" from human communication. Speaking of release announcements: my gut feeling is still this: just use one list where communication AND release announcements take place. For people who are not interested in general discussion but OPS4J releases, well we have many options: - [RELEASE] or [ANNOUNCE] tag in subject line (people can filter) - Confluence has a blog feed, so people could subscribe there. I personally have a problem with having many public mailinglist for seemingly cross cutting usergroups. Many don't know what they really want, so don't confuse them. For the "inbox.count=0" type of users, we can offer the aforementioned options. Reason for this is that OPS4J is not a corporation selling software. Instead we are a community where we should try to get people participating instead of locking them into "read only" mailinglists. ANYWAY, if majority here thinks a dedicated List for announcements is still required, no problem. Just wanted to share my thoughts on this while we are at "it" ;) Toni Menzel | Founder | toni.men...@rebaze.com *Rebaze GmbH | *www.rebaze.com | twitter @rebazetech<https://twitter.com/rebazetech> *Rebaze Pass* - Tailored Services for Cross Cutting Concerns in Enterprise IT Rebaze Pass for DevOps <http://www.rebaze.com/pass4devops.html> Rebaze Pass for Mobile <http://www.rebaze.com/pass4mobile.html> Rebaze Pass for Runtimes <http://www.rebaze.com/pass4runtimes.html> Rebaze Pass for Persistence <http://www.rebaze.com/pass4persistence.html> On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 4:20 PM, Harald Wellmann <hwellmann...@gmail.com>wrote: > Hi Toni, > > not sure if I'm repeating myself - I'm fine with moving this list to > Google Groups, but o...@googlegroups.com is not new and currently > carries mostly JIRA notifications and release announcements. I think > we should keep automatic notifications and "real" messages separate. > > AFIAK, there are 3 OPS4J Google Groups: > > ops4j > ops4j-announcement > ops4j-notify > > JIRA notifications currently appear both on ops4j and ops4j-notify. We > should make sure they only get sent to ops4j-notify and not to ops4j > so that users can opt out of JIRA "spam". > > A minor question is whether or not we should continue to cross-post > release announcements on ops4j-announcement and ops4j/general. I think > the answer is no, and the current settings on ops4j-announcements > (anyone can join, managers can post) is fine, as long as all OPS4J > releaser are managers of this list. > > Cheers, > Harald > > 2012/12/8 Toni Menzel <toni.men...@rebaze.com>: > > Gang, > > > > For some time now we've partially transitioned OPS4J infrastructure to > > detached hosting providers. Up until now this included: > > > > - Github for Code Hosting/SCM > > > > - Atlassian OnDemand for Confluence & Jira > > > > - Sonatype OSS Nexus for Artifact Repository and bridge to Maven Central > > > > We finalizing this transition by taking away srv07, which has now served > the > > OPS4J and Qi4j communities over the last 4 years. By end of December, the > > server is shut down. > > By finishing the transition we hope to have up-to-date, reliable > > infrastructure for all OPS4J Community activities in-place, so members > can > > focus on code. > > > > Services will be migrated as follows: > > - All subscribers to this list will get invites to the new Google > Group: > > op...@googlegroups.com. > > - DNS records moved to new servers (invisible to community) > > - Mailing list general@lists.ops4j.org (this one) will be shut down on > > December 21. > > - ci.ops4j.org (Hudson) will transition to a rebaze based server > (detached > > from srv07 already anyway) > > > > Unsolved issue; > > - http://repository.ops4j.org doesn't have a new home yet. Working > > with Qi4J to sort this out. > > > > I think that covers it. If there is anything I forgot - PLEASE BRING IT > UP! > > > > (Thanks to Niclas for the nobelprize-lyrics) > > > > Toni > > > > Toni Menzel | Founder | toni.men...@rebaze.com > > Rebaze GmbH | www.rebaze.com | twitter @rebazetech > > > > Rebaze Pass - Tailored Services for Cross Cutting Concerns in Enterprise > IT > > Rebaze Pass for DevOps > > Rebaze Pass for Mobile > > Rebaze Pass for Runtimes > > Rebaze Pass for Persistence > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > general mailing list > > general@lists.ops4j.org > > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general > > > > _______________________________________________ > general mailing list > general@lists.ops4j.org > http://lists.ops4j.org/mailman/listinfo/general >
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