Hello, 

First I have to say, that it is really awesome that you have had 
The effort to go through this exercise! I'm meeting the pulse 
Developers in ALS this week so we can also talk about these 
Issues. 

As said before, I'm really interested to use jack in 
Pulseaudio configuration as architecturally "external" dsp 
engine. This Is something that would be very very useful 
in my daily laptop development from policy management 
point of view.

I can't really say or promise how or when jackd would become part 
of Tizen. First we could possibly provide it by optional component 
So you could download it from tizen repo on top of the image. 
If the co-operation Between pulse and jackd is working nicely, 
we could start to think a permanent solution. But I still emphasize 
that these things need time and involve also some politics.

What I can promise is, that if there are good patches in pulseaudio 
Upstream available for these pain spots, we can quite easily 
Integrate and release those to tizen. We could maybe also do part 
of the actual work depending little bit on the effort. 

Could you still briefly summarize the findings or key items that 
Need attention in more detail?

Br,
Jaska



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On Behalf Of Patrick Shirkey
Sent: Monday, October 21, 2013 4:59 PM
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Subject: Re: [Tizen General] Tizen Audio Stack

Another update for people interested in this thread.

With the help of Tanu Kaskinen (intel/PA lead) we have identified a few 
optimisations that could be made in Pulse Audio to allow it to work more 
efficiently in combination with JACK. In addition David Henningson
(Canonical) has contributed some recent patches that seek to make some parts of 
PA a little more efficient and has expressed his interest in seeing the 
complete set of optimisations done from the Ubuntu Mobile perspective too.

I have discussed the issue in depth with the core JACK developers and they feel 
that as the issues are  (almost all) in regards to optimising Pulse Audio they 
can't offer much assistance at this point.

So the bulk of the effort looks like it will be spent on optimising PA to get 
better realtime audio performance and a more efficient graph model while JACK 
is running. The benefits from this process will also be applicable to the 
general desktop experience so that turns out to be pretty beneficial all round.

FYI, the other option of adding Bluez, Murphy and PA API support to JACK 
directly went down like a lead balloon with the JACK developers so there is 
approx zero likelihood of taking that route.

What is currently missing is the motivation to undertake the work that is 
required as a priority over any other development so I cannot say for sure how 
long it will take to get things done. I estimate it will be around three months 
of dev time including discussions and Dev/QA so it's not a major effort in the 
larger scheme of things. However when it kicks off and how much resource can be 
put to the task is still an unknown.

>From the Tizen perspective is there anything that Linux Audio Developers could 
>be doing to support the implementation process on the OS side?


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