Hi, Phil and all -

Here are some key points. Anyone want to discuss?

1.  Evagelism
2.  Funding
3.   Contests, Incentive

Thanks for taking a step!

I think there's another item which is a punch list of things that need to be done, and a road map or wish list of things that should be done or would be fun at least. Maybe refactor these as a roadmap under evangelism, and one more project descriptions designed to get people interested and hopefully induce some actual participation.

        4.  Projects

I'm willing to take a first pass at the content for evangelism. I will try to get something out very soon (next day or two) because I have another deadline looming that will keep me busy until the end of the month. It would be great if someone else could then pretty it up and disseminate it along the lines of Phil's earlier message.

I have two thoughts about ways to generate interest and possibly even funding:


Interest:
I was going to do this last year but I ran out of time. Sadly the timing is really tight again, but... The idea is to do an Advent Calendar in Lively Kernel. This was done once in Squeak and it was a *lot* of fun. The idea is that there is a front page with 25 places you can click, but you can only look at the first N of them on December Nth. It has the following virtues...

        It's a time when people are looking for distraction
        It's a seasonal topic so easy to "advertise"
        It's an opportunity for lots of simple cute hacks
        It can easily be a tutorial in disguise

Obviously it would be nice to have all the punch list items done first, but I think a better strategy at this point is to build some momentum and then use the community to do some of the finish work (this is why the roadmap is important). My experience from last year is that this is best done in the Lively Wiki.


Funding / incentive
I listen to people groaning about how to become an iPhone developer and how to break into the iPhone app marketing engine, and yet Lively Kernel apps run just fine in the iPhone with no need for Flash and no interference from Apple.

What if, at the end of the Advent Calendar, there were a way to join an LK Wiki and be able to save your fun hacks and useful apps that could run on iPhone (and others). If we could pull off the calendar project, we could rally a lot of attention.


I'll try to put together some text for a WikiPedia page and roadmap in the next day or two, and maybe people can discuss some more in the meantime.

        - Dan
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