On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 6:10 PM, Scott Deboy <[email protected]> wrote: > I actually used to track this from the downloads and JNLP was used quite > extensively, haven't checked in a while, but I bet if we deployed the latest > developer snapshot that would be the most frequently used path. We pinged > infra a while back on this but didn't get back a good response (Paul had to > sign the jars himself, and somehow JNLP was served correctly from where it > is now). > > I'll ping #infra on freenode, but I really don't want to drop JNLP support.
OK understood. If infra is fine with that, I am too and we can publish the jnlp via the CMS. Just the dmg/zip file - shouldn't we put these on the mirroring system? > Scott > > > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:46 AM, Ivan Habunek <[email protected]> > wrote: >> >> I'll take care of log4php next week. On holidays this week. >> >> Regards, >> Ivan >> >> On 22 June 2012 17:05, Christian Grobmeier <[email protected]> wrote: >> > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> So where does this leave us in moving the site over? >> > >> > I think we could simply commit the chainsaw binary into the cms folders. >> > >> > But actually I believe infra will eat us if they ever find out we >> > distribute binaries from the CMS folder. Therefore I would say we make >> > up a regular download page and reference to the dmg and the zip only >> > (dropping the jnlp) and use the mirroring system. >> > >> > Scott, its your domain- what do you say to that? >> > >> > Cheers >> > Christian >> > >> >> >> >> Ralph >> >> >> >> On Jun 21, 2012, at 12:51 AM, Scott Deboy <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> I believe we bypass the mirror system because the mirror system doesn't >> >> support the jnlp protocol (handling the mime type).. >> >> >> >> Scott >> >> >> >> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 12:49 AM, Scott Deboy <[email protected]> >> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> An icon is usually added to the user's start menu and/or desktop, >> >>> which >> >>> launches javaws and uses the jnlp protocol, so they don't need to go >> >>> back to >> >>> the link to get the benefit of autoupdates. >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:45 PM, Christian Grobmeier >> >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>> On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 7:40 AM, Scott Deboy <[email protected]> >> >>>> wrote: >> >>>> > The benefit of webstart is updates are automatically downloaded and >> >>>> > installed. The link actually tries to check jars each time you >> >>>> > start >> >>>> > the >> >>>> > app and will update automatically if there are new ones. >> >>>> >> >>>> yes understood. >> >>>> >> >>>> Does the user (i am a webstart noob) always need to click on our >> >>>> webpage to start the app? >> >>>> And, do we actually bypass the mirror system here or am I wrong with >> >>>> my assumption? Not sure if that is really relevant because I don't >> >>>> know about the user base >> >>>> >> >>>> Cheers >> >>>> Christian >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > Scott >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> > On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 10:36 PM, Christian Grobmeier >> >>>> > <[email protected]> >> >>>> > wrote: >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Scott Deboy >> >>>> >> <[email protected]> >> >>>> >> wrote: >> >>>> >> > I think the gotcha there had something to do with making sure >> >>>> >> > the >> >>>> >> > jnlp >> >>>> >> > file mapping was correctly supported. It has been about eight >> >>>> >> > years, >> >>>> >> > but >> >>>> >> > that is my recollection. >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > That and the stupid maven template support would not allow us to >> >>>> >> > use >> >>>> >> > an >> >>>> >> > image as the link (a 'launch' webstart graphical button as the >> >>>> >> > link) >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Is there something speaking against downloading an exe/dmg/zip via >> >>>> >> the >> >>>> >> usual download system? >> >>>> >> Or is webstart the killer feature for chainsaw? :-) >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> Cheers >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > Scott >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> > On Jun 20, 2012, at 2:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier >> >>>> >> > <[email protected]> >> >>>> >> > wrote: >> >>>> >> > >> >>>> >> >> On Wed, Jun 20, 2012 at 7:07 AM, Ralph Goers >> >>>> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>>> >> >>> I believe all the hard work on the logging site is completed >> >>>> >> >>> however >> >>>> >> >>> some of the sub projects are yet to be published. I would >> >>>> >> >>> like to >> >>>> >> >>> have >> >>>> >> >>> infra convert loggingtest.apache.org to logging.apache.org but >> >>>> >> >>> I >> >>>> >> >>> don't want >> >>>> >> >>> to get 404s on those sub projects. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> I looked at chainsaw and the download page will certainly >> >>>> >> >>> break if >> >>>> >> >>> I >> >>>> >> >>> were to just copy the content. I'm not sure about the others. >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> Any ideas? >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> Just added log4cxx to loggingtest.a.o. Its using the download >> >>>> >> >> script >> >>>> >> >> which generates a list of mirrors so no problem here. In >> >>>> >> >> addition I >> >>>> >> >> completed the branding requirements for log4cxx so we can leave >> >>>> >> >> that >> >>>> >> >> untouched for a while now. >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> I am not sure on the chainsaw one. It seems to bypass the >> >>>> >> >> mirroring >> >>>> >> >> system which is kind a bad. Instead we should change the site >> >>>> >> >> to >> >>>> >> >> use >> >>>> >> >> the download script imho. Maybe Scott can comment here. >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> That being said, the chainsaw site needs an appropriate footer. >> >>>> >> >> Basically the maven.vm template could be used in chainsaw too. >> >>>> >> >> So >> >>>> >> >> we >> >>>> >> >> have 2 tasks here, update to branding and use the mirror >> >>>> >> >> system. >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> cheers >> >>>> >> >> Christian >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>> Ralph >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> >> >>>> >> >> -- >> >>>> >> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >>>> >> >> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> >> >>>> >> -- >> >>>> >> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >>>> >> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >>>> > >> >>>> > >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> -- >> >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >> >>>> https://www.timeandbill.de >> >>> >> >>> >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > -- >> > http://www.grobmeier.de >> > https://www.timeandbill.de > > -- http://www.grobmeier.de https://www.timeandbill.de
