This subdivision existed before I got on the PMC. Personally, I see no reason 
for the separation either.

Ralph

On Nov 15, 2012, at 10:46 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I have several groups here:
> http://people.apache.org/committers-by-project.html#logging
> 
> Like:
> log4cxx
> log4j
> log4j2
> log4php
> 
> and so on. Ivan wants to commit to log4j (the site) but he doesn't
> have the group. So he ask me if he has enough rights. I myself have no
> log4j group, but I can commit to log4j. Not sure why or if this is by
> design.
> 
> I think these sub groups are pretty useless and would like to propose
> that we just have two groups: logging and logging-pmc.
> 
> Personally I think there is no need for separation; if Ivan wants to
> contribute to log4j and has been elected as logging committer, he
> should be able to do that.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Cheers
> Christian

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