Please see in-line...
On Apr 3, 2007, at 10:36 AM, Priscilla Chung wrote:
My comments in-line.
On Apr 2, 2007, at 7:19 PM, Mimi Yin wrote:
NON-FUNCTIONING TEMPLATE
+ I was unable to get to the Hosted Service page? http://
wiki.osafoundation.org/Journal/OSAFHostedServiceSidebar
I must have forgotten to create one at the time. I just created
one, so the link should work now. All I did was add the News.
Thx. I applied it to the Hosted Service Project/Team page and whoa,
it's really wide, you can't even see the RIGHT NAV. Jared, could you
take a look during the Wiki Gardening today?
http://wiki.osafoundation.org/Projects/HostedServiceOpsOverview
ADDITIONAL TEMPLATES
+ Should we have a template for the Ops team as well?
I'm guessing Katie can answer this one, but I can create one if you
need me to.
Katie?
+ Should we have templates for each Wiki area? Product, Planning,
Engineering, Teams, Notes?
Isn't that what I originally did w/ the one column and the two
column? http://wiki.osafoundation.org/bin/view/Journal/
PreviewWikiTemplateHome
Or are you saying they should all look the same?
This is all in the context of a RIGHT NAV. Should we have RIGHT NAV
templates for each of the wiki areas.
EDITING TEMPLATES
+ Is there a way to make the Title of the include a part of the
include?
I'm not sure what you mean by the 'Title'?
NEWS, NOW, DEFERRED. The header that sits above each include.
I find that to make changes to an include, I need to edit the
include title on every page *and* edit the include page as well.
I think originally there would not be so many things to edit. You
may be updating the 'News' regularly, but the Apps side bar, QA
side bar, etc., most of them will stay the same.
?? I'm not sure I follow. If we ever decide to change the title of
the News include, we will need to find every page that includes the
News include in order to make sure the titles/headers are consistent?
+ Is there a way to make a dividing line at the bottom of a
template? In particular, the OSAFSidebar template?
Add '---' at the bottom of the wiki page?
I tried that and it didn't seem to work. OSAFSidebar isn't edited via
a wiki page like the other RIGHT NAV templates. It's something you do
directly from the TwikiPrefs page, but this is no big deal so no
worries.
TWEAKS TO THE TEAM TEMPLATES
+ I changed the 'Team' header on the Team templates to 'People'
because sometimes, we will be using the 'Team' header to denote
what 'Team' is affiliated with a particular wiki area (e.g. the
Planning Wiki area is managed by the Team: PPD)
Using 'People' as a title just doesn't seem right to me. I might
suggest 'Teams' and links to the 'Apps Team' or 'Platform Team'.
And when you click on it will take you to a teams page. Or the
Teams web home, which is giving the user a high level view of the
organization. If you want to be specific of the team members, then
perhaps you could use 'Team Member' if you're looking at the PPD
team (wiki homepage?)
Based on your original taxonomy work: http://wiki.osafoundation.org/
pub/Journal/WikiReTaxonomy/041PPD_Team_Page.png
I had TEAM MEMBERS on the Team Page RIGHT NAVS. TEAM MEMBERS was a
list of the People on each Team. What doesn't make sense to me is to
have a link to the Team Page in the RIGHT NAV which will sit on the
Team Page. It's a recursive link.
The places where I had a TEAMS link in the RIGHT NAV were in the top-
level wiki areas: PRODUCT, PLANNING, ENGINEERING. The first two
linked to PPD. The third listed all the engineering teams.
For example in Cosmo, it may be useful for users coming to the wiki
to understand who the committers are so if someone comes along and
are interested in contributing some code to a particular part of
the app, they would know who to ask. A link on the right hand side
bar to the Cosmo team page is sufficient to me. Listing all the
team members and identifying who the ppl do not seem necessary to me.
Again, it feels redundant to link to the Cosmo Team page from the
Cosmo Team page. I believe where we're crossing paths is that we're
not being clear about the distinction between the Cosmo Engineering
pages, the Cosmo Product Design pages, the Cosmo Planning pages and
the Cosmo Team page. My understanding was that the Cosmo RIGHT NAV
template was for the Cosmo Team area, since the other RIGHT NAV
templates were all Team-related: PPD, Apps, Platform, QA, Build etc.
From my understanding the rights side bar is not supposed to be a
right navigational element, but more of an aid for announcements
and perhaps relevant cross links to the wiki page you are looking at.
I'm not sure I'm following. I see the RIGHT NAV as a way to hilight
and call attention to 'important' stuff in any given wiki area/topic
as well as to provide links to relevant content in other wiki areas/
topics. I'm not sure if that's navigation or not...
+ What else should go in the Team Templates? We can discuss this
at tomorrow's Wiki Gardening Session.
Ok.
TEAM INCLUDE
Priss, how do you imagine we'll use http://wiki.osafoundation.org/
bin/view/Journal/PreviewWikiTeamInclude?
Like I said, I originally built the template based on your taxonomy
work. You'll notice you were using 'Teams' in various different
ways: http://wiki.osafoundation.org/Journal/WikiReTaxonomy (which
is why I had built so many includes and had them be customize-able
for each wiki section).
Yes. The intent behind the design was that there should be a
distinction between TEAMS and TEAM MEMBERS. The former is for 'Topic-
centered' content areas. The latter is for Team-centered content
areas. I've simply replaced TEAM MEMBERS with PEOPLE.
Mimi
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