Removing [Chandler-dev] from subject line in case this thread is
getting filtered out for people.
I think it might be important to display the version number for Hub,
just to make the point that we're making progress on both projects.
Ted, do you have any thoughts on this?
I'm concerned that it's misleading to display the Desktop version
number at the top of the page. The project as a whole isn't at
0.7.1...only the Desktop is.
Mimi
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From: Philippe Bossut <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: October 11, 2007 10:55:06 PM PDT
To: OSAF Discussions <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [General] Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date
on chandlerproject.org
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I agree with Heikki. Let's keep this page clear and simple. The
green/blue correspondence between arrows and dates will be lost on
most people.
Cheers,
- Philippe
Heikki Toivonen wrote:
Mimi Yin wrote:
1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source
Applications
Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like new
releases. (See
mock-up.)
I've actually come to the opinion that what is on chandlerproject.org
now is fine. Alternatively I could see:
... .6 *.7* .8 ...
0.7.1 - Oct 10, 2007
The reason is that I believe most people who come to
chandlerproject.org
will do so to download the desktop. The second most numerous group
will
be people logging in to Hub, but IMO Hub does not need version
number on
chandlerproject.org. And since we want to keep the server a bit less
visible, just adding the server version number next to the server
download link like in your mockup would be fine.
2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub and
Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns.
I don't think we need to specify Hub's version anywhere on
chandlerproject.org. Users of Hub will see the version from Hub
itself.
3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is
deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be
that
people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for many
end-users!)
OK by me.
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Begin forwarded message:
From: Heikki Toivonen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: October 11, 2007 7:07:56 PM PDT
To: OSAF Discussions <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [General] Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date
on chandlerproject.org
Reply-To: OSAF Discussions <[email protected]>
Mimi Yin wrote:
1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source
Applications
Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like new
releases. (See
mock-up.)
I've actually come to the opinion that what is on chandlerproject.org
now is fine. Alternatively I could see:
... .6 *.7* .8 ...
0.7.1 - Oct 10, 2007
The reason is that I believe most people who come to
chandlerproject.org
will do so to download the desktop. The second most numerous group
will
be people logging in to Hub, but IMO Hub does not need version
number on
chandlerproject.org. And since we want to keep the server a bit less
visible, just adding the server version number next to the server
download link like in your mockup would be fine.
2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub and
Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns.
I don't think we need to specify Hub's version anywhere on
chandlerproject.org. Users of Hub will see the version from Hub
itself.
3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is
deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be that
people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for many
end-users!)
OK by me.
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Heikki Toivonen
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From: Reid Ellis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: October 11, 2007 2:22:38 PM PDT
To: OSAF Discussions <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [General] Fwd: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date
on chandlerproject.org
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I would avoid nn/nn/nn for dates, and stick with "Oct 10, 2007"-
style dates.
I don't think a version number is useful, and may even be confusing
for Chandler Hub -- "Uh-oh, I only have Chandler 0.7.x and the Hub
is at 0.8.x -- will they work together ok??"
Was the reversing of "version product date" between server and
desktop around the countdown deliberate?
Reid
On Oct 11, 2007, at 14:34, Mimi Yin wrote:
Moving this discussion over to the General List.
1. The top bar (where currently there is only: Open Source
Applications Foundation) was intended to display 'news items' like
new releases. (See mock-up.)
2. We should probably have release numbers for both Desktop, Hub
and Server, which should take care of Heikki's layout concerns.
3. The lack of a green download arrow for 'Download Server' is
deliberate just as Jeffrey said. (Our problem doesn't seem to be
that people can't find it, but that it's still too prominent for
many end-users!)
We have a longer-term problem however. Since Server/Desktop
releases are no longer in lock-step, what happens when the Server
is at 0.8.1? and the Desktop is at 0.7.8 or vice versa? What do we
display in the top area? I have a proposed solution in the mockup
below. The layout of the release timeline is rather complex, so it
might need to be a graphic.
Mimi
<DoReleases.png>
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From: Davor Cubranic <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: October 11, 2007 11:01:57 AM PDT
To: Developer Discussions <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Chandler-dev] Release number and date on
chandlerproject.org
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
On Thu, 11 Oct 2007, Reid Ellis wrote:
We could keep the top text/graphic at "0.7" and mention the version
number next to the product download areas. See mock-up: http://
clith.com/chandler.html
This is much better. Would the date under the timeline be for the
latest
release (0.7.1, in this case)?
Davor
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