At the very least, retaining the project mission will certainly be worthwhile as it gives the project the necessary focus.
On 15.05.2006 18:56:01 Glen Mazza wrote: > Jeremias Maerki wrote: > > >Only problem: ASF policy overrules any charter we give ourselves. It was > >even repeatedly said on member lists that project charters are > >unnecessary which I agree today since the general policy document has > >improved a lot since last year. > > > > > OK then--providing the Apache Board has a generic (hopefully > lawyer-generated also) charter good for all the projects, I think we > should officially nullify our own project charter--get rid of it. For > legal reasons, it doesn't help to have two charters that conflict with > each other. The PMC members can vote to void it. > > >> Further, if the Apache boards finds committer voting to be so > >>reprehensible, why did they approve our charter then, which explicitly > >>calls for that? > >> > >> > > > >You need to keep in mind that a lot of policy stuff has been clarified > >in the last 12 months. > > > Sure, that's normal, that happens. > > >> Also, the Apache Board will need > >>to be sufficiently mortified by committer voting that it will declare > >>the XML Graphics charter to be null and void. Failing that, according > >>to the charter, you will need to run a vote among the PMC members (of > >>which I am not one, nor plan to join for this vote) to remove votes from > >>committers. Until then, the charter has to remain in force, with > >>committers continuing to vote on subproject-related matters. > >> > >> > > > >As I said above, ASF policy comes first. The charter was built on some > >assumptions which turned out to be wrong after the clarifications. What > >we obviously need to do (and which I failed to recognize) is to amend > >our charter so it is in line with ASF policy. > > > > > I don't think amending it is the best option--because what happens if > they fall out of sync again? Best to void the document entirely, but if > we have to retain it, then to explicitly state the "any ASF policy > overriding this charter takes precedence" and to *remove* any provision > (such as the roles of PMC members and committers) that the ASF already > has predefined. Just updating the charter provisions to bring them in > line with current ASF policy still leaves vague which has precedence. Jeremias Maerki --------------------------------------------------------------------- Apache XML Graphics Project URL: http://xmlgraphics.apache.org/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
