Hello,

Your examples represent the presence of genes within genes.

The larger gene spans multi-exons, has both 5' and 3' UTRs, and a 
confirmed translated/coding region (CDS).

The smaller gene(s) fall into the intron regions of the larger gene's 
global footprint and are generally non-coding and one or a few short exons.

Scientifically, this is valid gene organization on the genome. From a 
process perspective, these transcripts/genes are distinct clusters in 
UCSC Genes because they do not share exons.

Hopefully this helps,
Thanks,
Jennifer

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Jennifer Jackson
UCSC Genome Informatics Group
http://genome.ucsc.edu/

On 4/8/10 1:38 PM, Bio X2Y wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
> A number of 'clusters' in the UCSC Gene annotation overlap on the same
> strand (if you consider the boundaries of a cluster to be the minimum
> txstart and the maximum txend of the cluster's transcripts).
>
>
> This was queried in a previous post (
> https://lists.soe.ucsc.edu/pipermail/genome/2009-October/020325.html), where
> Jennifer/Jim explained that clustering is driven by proteins, and non-coding
> transcripts are merged into the cluster with which they share the greatest
> overlap.
>
>
> While this explains some of the cluster overlaps, it doesn't shed light on
> the scenario where non-coding transcripts are allowed to exist as standalone
> clusters, even though they fall within the boundaries of a larger cluster.
>
>
> For example, in the HG19 version of UCSC Genes, cluster 8145 contains 8
> transcripts (5 coding + 3 non-coding). The annotation also contains 41
> smaller non-coding clusters, all of which fall completely within the
> boundaries of cluster 8145. The smaller clusters are numbered consecutively
> from 8146 to 8186 (inclusive).
>
>
> Is this scenario intentional, or is it possibly an unintended artifact of
> the clustering process?
>
>
> Thanks!
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