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From: Ao Zhou <[email protected]>
Date: 2010/8/24
Subject: Re: [Genome] About: Getting homolog regions in Rat, with Mouse
genomic coordinates
To: Mary Goldman <[email protected]>


Update: Liftover works, thank you very much!!! :)
I thought it could only be used in version transforms~ I does work between
mouse and rat!

There is another question, in this page:
http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?org=Mouse&db=mm8&position=chr1:175561150-175578575

I think the level 1 net alignment should have the most sequences mapped
right?
But in this page it seems like a big gap... what is the reason please?

Thank you :)

2010/8/24 Ao Zhou <[email protected]>

Dear Mary,
>
> Thank you so much for answering my questions!
>
> For the first tool LiftOver, this is helpful in transforming the MM8
> coordinates to MM9 coordinates,
> but cannot help in the homolog region search between Mouse and Rat.
>
> For the second tool, actually the regions I'm looking for are all
> inter-genic regions (we are looking for unknown genes),
> so it may not work either... T_T
>
> So is there any possible methods to get the results?
> What I wanted to do is: Given a mouse region, then search for the rat
> region with the highest alignment score to the mouse region.
> Thank you! :)
>
>
>
>
> 2010/8/24 Mary Goldman <[email protected]>
>
> Hi Ao,
>>
>> There two other tools that may be able to help you. The first is the
>> liftOver tool (http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgLiftOver), which allows
>> you to lift batch coordinates between assemblies. I am not sure if this will
>> work for you, given that it uses the same tables you were accessing in your
>> first method, but it is probably worth a try.
>>
>> The other tool that may be able to help you is the rnBlastTab table. This
>> table was built by taking all the genes in UCSC Genes, blasting them against
>> the rat genome and then filtering out the non-sytenic hits. However, this
>> table is only helpful if your all your genomic regions are genes in the UCSC
>> Genes track. If this is so, please write back and I will email further
>> instructions on how to use this table.
>>
>> I hope this information is helpful.  Please feel free to contact the mail
>> list again if you require further assistance.
>>
>> Best,
>> Mary
>> ------------------
>> Mary Goldman
>> UCSC Bioinformatics Group
>>
>>
>> On 8/22/10 10:47 AM, Ao Zhou wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, there,
>>>
>>> I'm a beginner in UCSC genome browser, and I'm attempting to find out
>>> Rat homolog regions with Mouse genomic coordinates.
>>> The query composites of thousands tuples like this, the db version is
>>> *mm8*:
>>> chrX  138292125   138297400
>>>
>>> What I want is like this, the db version is Rat* Rn4*:
>>> chrX  -  35494226    35500120
>>>
>>> I've already tried two methods, but both of them are not perfect:
>>>
>>> 1. In the table browser, Mammal ->  Mouse ->  Comparative Genomice ->
>>>  Rat/Net
>>> ->  input coordinate restrictions
>>>     Pros: Batch download is available in this method
>>>     Cons: The derived regions are actually highly homolog sub-regions
>>> within
>>> the query Mouse region,
>>>               however, what I need is a single Rat region that can be
>>> considered as a homolog gene to the query Mouse region.
>>> 2. In the genome browser, Comparative Genomics ->  Rat Full ->  Click on
>>> the
>>> net alignment ->  See the alignments
>>>     Pros: The two regions are mapped, and a side by side alignment is
>>> also
>>> shown.
>>>              Though the Rat coordinates are not clearly displayed, it can
>>> be
>>> infered from the alignments.
>>>     Cons: Batch download is not available, I have thousands of Mouse
>>> regions
>>> to query...
>>>
>>> Other methods:
>>>     I'm also thinking of do the mapping manually, or use PHP to search
>>> the
>>> result pages of the side by side alignment.
>>>     But before doing that I have to make sure there's not an efficient
>>> way
>>> to do this task~
>>>
>>> Could anyone tell me what tool I should use please...?
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Ao Zhou
> Ph.D. Student,
> Bioinformatics Program,
> School of Informatics, IUPUI
> Tel: 317-372-7004
>



-- 
Ao Zhou
Ph.D. Student,
Bioinformatics Program,
School of Informatics, IUPUI
Tel: 317-372-7004



-- 
Ao Zhou
Ph.D. Student,
Bioinformatics Program,
School of Informatics, IUPUI
Tel: 317-372-7004
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