31Mr11 2239
I tried to find table browser introduction but got stuck in advance helix
(advance table browser; i bounced around the
website w/o luck; now try google...putting in "table browser introduction"-
just looked; keep going in circles w/o finding
introduction (assume it is also dvd like the advanced table browser...will
look back through emails and try to find
what Mary said- bingo- found the introd dvd cited in Mary's earlier email-
have been listening but going to sleep now-
like that words and arrows and "print screen" are included- the arrow helps-
when I suggested you all publish something
to help the naive- this is it and Mary told me, but I didn't begin reading
until now- about 2 wks ago when I first googled
ucsc genome, I hit one of the main (confusing/busy pages)- would have been
useful to see the introd dvd listed (it might
have been but the first page was so busy that I didn't notice...anyway...i
will examine tomorrow...and remain grateful
if anyone has time to help me troubleshoot- i pasted the error message which
so far is meaningless to me

((i hope before you post all my emails on your website that you eliminate
extraneous/redundant- one reason I wrote
so many details was to help you track how a naive/interested/fairlysmart
person finds her way through all the words-
tough- what helped the most was Mary's email citing all the webpage introd
dvds etc
A

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:35 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
[email protected]> wrote:

> 1. the below message makes no sense to me
> 2. i am examining the USER MANUAL now, but it is LONNNNNG
> 3. Mary, perhaps when you help someone so much (you laid/layed out all the
> steps), also mention what
> sections of the manual are the most important
> 4. this is already a very useful website and I hope you all take my
> suggestions as you all are
> helping me and I am trying to help you improve what is already a useful
> resource
>
>   On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:31 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Can't start query:
>> select 
>> tStart,tEnd,qName,0,strand,tStart,tEnd,blockCount,blockSizes,tStarts,tSize 
>> from all_sts_primer where tName='chr1' and ((%DMit%))
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> mySQL error 1064: You have an error in your SQL syntax; check the manual 
>> that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use 
>> near '%DMit%))' at line 1
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> above is my error message - I got thrown by rexon which I should have
>> recognized as UTR exon...but anyway, Mary your
>> directions were fairly clear- only the submit is what threw me until my
>> husband suggested--- now what to do about error message
>>
>> QC for you all to think about
>> 1. not so bad
>> 2. since going back to first page is just mechanical but do zip there,
>> perhaps could be
>> eliminated?
>> 3. since so many hoops to jump through, maybe allow the last submission to
>> be saved and then the person
>> fixes the goof rather than resubmitting (all those hoops)
>>
>> I will try to figure out..and hope to get output soon
>> Many thanks so far
>> A
>>
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:24 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> 31Mr11 2132
>>> I called the first one 5'UTRexon
>>> that choice is not listed
>>> i will try clicking on rexon though that isn't what I typed in
>>>
>>>   On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:14 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> 31Mr11 2112
>>>> 1. I entered 5'UTRexon and hit the button for 5'UTRexon
>>>> 2. this caused the computer to go back to page 1
>>>>
>>>>   On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 9:08 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> 31Mr31 2107
>>>>> 1. there is no phrase "submit" on page one- I looked 5X; my husband
>>>>> looked 2X
>>>>> 2. my husband suggested "get output" which led me to next page- is this
>>>>> correct?
>>>>>
>>>>>   On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 8:50 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 31Mr31 2048 (will work some more; then return here ca. 1500) (thanks
>>>>>> to all for your continuing help/patience)
>>>>>> (I still feel the PRINT SCREEN combined with arrows would help naive
>>>>>> to find places on the fairly busy web page)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Vanessa and Mary,
>>>>>> 1. I see why on page one I submitted that sequence (see near bottom of
>>>>>> page)
>>>>>> 2. I am reading Mary's directions for me and see NO PLACE ON PAGE ONE
>>>>>> where there is a place
>>>>>> to click submit
>>>>>> A
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 6:08 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker <
>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 31Mr11 1807
>>>>>>> Vanessa and Mary,
>>>>>>> 1. thnx for fast turnaround
>>>>>>> 2. Mary  (if I understood her) said that those DMit markers
>>>>>>> (attached) were part of the UCSC database
>>>>>>> 3. the instructions I read said upload- I will reread what Mary wrote
>>>>>>> and try again
>>>>>>> 4. recall that we need bulk upload/downloads because I have ca. 7500
>>>>>>> DMit loci.
>>>>>>> 5. I just got back from my EXCEL/ACCESS tutorial and will be
>>>>>>> rereading Mary's directions and then retrying
>>>>>>> 6. note each Friday, I am busy until ca. 1500 (EXCEL class)
>>>>>>> Respectfully,
>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:21 PM, Vanessa Kirkup Swing <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Ann,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Are you trying to use DMit markers that aren't on the UCSC Genome
>>>>>>>> Browser? The instructions below do not ask you to upload a file. Were 
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> trying to upload a file?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Vanessa Kirkup Swing
>>>>>>>> UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> From: "Ann Eileen Miller Baker" <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>  To: "Mary Goldman" <[email protected]>, [email protected]
>>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, March 31, 2011 12:35:45 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Genome] Fwd: pls reply to [email protected]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 31Mr 1235
>>>>>>>> Mary,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1. I submitted the attached (Witmer DMit for ucsc)
>>>>>>>> and got error message
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> hashMustFindVal: 'hgta_pastedIdentifiers' not found
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2.  this was step directly after custom output
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 3. I will be here Th until ca. 1500 and return ca. 1700; Friday
>>>>>>>> I am in Eureka for ACCESS/EXCEL classes until ca.
>>>>>>>> 1500- on most days I am here most of time, just not this Th
>>>>>>>> and F
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>> (I am reading your instructions as I try what you say; i.e., I
>>>>>>>> stopped
>>>>>>>> reading when I got error message)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 29, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Mary Goldman <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> > Hi Ann,
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I looked at your file and it appears to be a FASTA file of all the
>>>>>>>> records
>>>>>>>> > from the all_sts_primer table from the mm9 assembly that have
>>>>>>>> "D1MIT" in the
>>>>>>>> > name.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The best way to do this is to A) create a custom track of introns,
>>>>>>>> another
>>>>>>>> > one of 5' UTR exons, another one of coding exons, etc and B) then
>>>>>>>> > sequentially intersect these custom tracks with the all_sts_primer
>>>>>>>> table
>>>>>>>> > while filtering out the non-DMit records.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > A)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > First, let's create a custom track of 5' UTR exons. Go to the
>>>>>>>> table browser
>>>>>>>> > (http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTables) and select the
>>>>>>>> following:
>>>>>>>> > clade: mammal
>>>>>>>> > genome: Mouse
>>>>>>>> > assembly: July 2007 (NCBI31/mm9)
>>>>>>>> > group: Genes and Gene Prediction Tracks
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > track: UCSC Genes
>>>>>>>> > table: knownGene
>>>>>>>> > region: genome
>>>>>>>> > output format: custom track
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > and click "submit". On the next page, change the name at the top
>>>>>>>> to be
>>>>>>>> > something like "5UTRknownGene", choose the "5' UTR exons" button
>>>>>>>> and click
>>>>>>>> > "get custom track in table browser".
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Repeat the steps above for introns, coding exons (CDS) and 3' UTR
>>>>>>>> Exons.
>>>>>>>> > Note that if you choose Exons, this will include both UTR and
>>>>>>>> coding exons
>>>>>>>> > both.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > B)
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Now, go back to the table browser and select the following:
>>>>>>>> > clade: mammal
>>>>>>>> > genome: Mouse
>>>>>>>> > assembly: July 2007 (NCBI31/mm9)
>>>>>>>> > group: Mapping and Sequencing Tracks
>>>>>>>> > track: STS Markers
>>>>>>>> > table: all_sts_primer
>>>>>>>> > region: genome
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > filter: click on "create". At the bottom of the page, enter the
>>>>>>>> following
>>>>>>>> > into the Free-form query section: qName like "%D1MIT%". Click
>>>>>>>> "submit".
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > intersection: click on "create". Select:
>>>>>>>> > group: Custom Tracks
>>>>>>>> > track: 5UTRknownGene (or whatever you named your track in step A)
>>>>>>>> > table: there will be only one table so there is no need to select
>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>> > choose: "All all_sts_primer records that have any overlap with
>>>>>>>> > 5UTRknownGene" and click "submit"
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > output format: BED - browser extensible data
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > and click "get output".
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > The fourth column should be the names of the DMit loci that are
>>>>>>>> located in
>>>>>>>> > the 5' UTR. Repeat B for your previously created custom tracks of
>>>>>>>> introns,
>>>>>>>> > coding exons (CDS) and 3' UTR Exons. Note, that any DMit loci not
>>>>>>>> found to
>>>>>>>> > be within 5' UTR Exons, introns, coding exons (CDS) or 3' UTR
>>>>>>>> Exons are,
>>>>>>>> > necessarily, intergenic.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > I hope this information is helpful.  Please feel free to contact
>>>>>>>> the mail
>>>>>>>> > list again if you require further assistance.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Best,
>>>>>>>> > Mary
>>>>>>>> > ------------------
>>>>>>>> > Mary Goldman
>>>>>>>> > UCSC Bioinformatics Group
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >  On 3/28/11 6:51 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > 28Mr11
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Mary Goldman,
>>>>>>>> > Thanks for more details, trying to help me learn enough to
>>>>>>>> > find the info I seek. I don't keep the correct email and
>>>>>>>> > would be grateful if you forwarded this email to them or whenever
>>>>>>>> > you respond you include the correct email and I will forward.
>>>>>>>> > Email is fine: I suggested phone because I thought it would
>>>>>>>> > be faster. I guess that recombination rates might be guestimated
>>>>>>>> > (to an order of magnitude?) with recombinant inbred lines. Any
>>>>>>>> > other (indirect way) to guestimate recombination rates
>>>>>>>> appreciated.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > (1a) let me be clearer- the main data I am looking for is
>>>>>>>> > ""where mouse usat (microsatellite loci DMit) are located relative
>>>>>>>> > to  ((regulatory genes (promoters, 5' UTR, intergenes etc and
>>>>>>>> > genes (exons)))""
>>>>>>>> > (1b) in brief, I wish to do for mouse usat DMit what Payseur
>>>>>>>> > (attachment) did for human usat
>>>>>>>> > (2) I have no colleague who refers me to UCSC data on location of
>>>>>>>> > usats (microsatellite loci) with respect to regulatory genes
>>>>>>>> > (3) I know you are trying to do your best to help me, but can
>>>>>>>> > you suggest where I might look to find this information as a file
>>>>>>>> > (rather than entering each of the >> 7500 usat individually)
>>>>>>>> > (4) I will be looking at wikipedia and the helix websites you
>>>>>>>> > suggested asap (in middle of some analyses now, yet wanted
>>>>>>>> > to answer your comments, questions as much as I could.
>>>>>>>> > (5) How I would like to see output: I WANT TO SEE ALL
>>>>>>>> > because I don't know which DMit locus is in exons, introns etc:
>>>>>>>> > (5a) DMit locus name
>>>>>>>> > (5b) is the DMit locus in an
>>>>>>>> > (5b1) exon?
>>>>>>>> > (5b2) coding exon?
>>>>>>>> > (5b3) intron
>>>>>>>> > (5b4) intergene
>>>>>>>> > (5b5) 5'UTR (most likely regulatory gene location)
>>>>>>>> > (5b6) 3'UTR
>>>>>>>> > (5b7) I don't know what cds are (coding?) but will look up in
>>>>>>>> > wikipedia/google
>>>>>>>> > (5c) These output columns could be summarized as "no evidence
>>>>>>>> > for selection (introns)"  versus " strong evidence for selection
>>>>>>>> (exons
>>>>>>>> > in genes important for survival; this would include key promoters
>>>>>>>> too)"
>>>>>>>> > (6) I have DMit amplified sequences that a colleague sent me
>>>>>>>> > (attached)- the DMit name is embedded within a string of other
>>>>>>>> > info
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Mnay thanks for trying to help- we make progress; I will read what
>>>>>>>> > you suggested asap. Payseur's paragraph in the MatMeth explains
>>>>>>>> > probably more clearly than I can now (still learning).
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Look forward to hearing from you; will send on to correct email;
>>>>>>>> > may write more after reading what you suggested.
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Ann
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > On Mon, Mar 28, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Mary Goldman <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> >> Hi Ann,
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> I'm sorry but I've looked again and I can't find data on DMits
>>>>>>>> here.
>>>>>>>> >> Perhaps your colleague knows which track he used to obtain the
>>>>>>>> data from
>>>>>>>> >> UCSC?
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> To better help you there are a couple of things that need to be
>>>>>>>> clarified:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> 1. Do you have genomic coordinates or sequences? If you are
>>>>>>>> unsure send a
>>>>>>>> >> small sample in your reply.
>>>>>>>> >> 2. Specify exactly what loci types are you looking for
>>>>>>>> (intergenic, 3'
>>>>>>>> >> UTR, CDS, intron or 5'UTR)?. Please note that there is no
>>>>>>>> recombination rate
>>>>>>>> >> data available for mouse.
>>>>>>>> >> 3. What are your desired output columns? I'm not sure, but I
>>>>>>>> think they
>>>>>>>> >> are DMit locus name, DMit sequence and locus type
>>>>>>>> (intron/exon/etc).
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Before you reply, I highly recommend watching both OpenHelix
>>>>>>>> tutorials
>>>>>>>> >> below (the first one is about the Genome Browser generally, while
>>>>>>>> the second
>>>>>>>> >> one focuses on Custom Tracks and the Table Browser, both of which
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> >> software features that you will be using):
>>>>>>>> >> http://www.openhelix.com/downloads/ucsc/ucsc_home.shtml
>>>>>>>> >> http://www.openhelix.com//cgi/tutorialInfo.cgi?id=28
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Additionally, this Wikipedia article may help you understand what
>>>>>>>> we mean
>>>>>>>> >> by "assembly" here at the Genome Browser:
>>>>>>>> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genome_project. In particular, this
>>>>>>>> section
>>>>>>>> >> should help make it clear why there are several assemblies for
>>>>>>>> each
>>>>>>>> >> organism:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genome_project#When_is_a_genome_project_finished.3F
>>>>>>>> >> .
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Finally, I'm very sorry but we are not funded to provide help via
>>>>>>>> phone.
>>>>>>>> >> Please reply to the mailing list with any further replies and
>>>>>>>> questions.
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Best,
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> Mary
>>>>>>>> >> ------------------
>>>>>>>> >> Mary Goldman
>>>>>>>> >> UCSC Bioinformatics Group
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >> On 3/22/11 6:14 PM, Ann Eileen Miller Baker wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>> >>> From: Ann Eileen Miller Baker<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> >>> Date: Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 2:19 PM
>>>>>>>> >>> Subject: Re: [Genome] pls reply to [email protected]
>>>>>>>> >>> To: Vanessa Kirkup Swing<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> 22Mr11
>>>>>>>> >>> Dr. Kirkup Swing,
>>>>>>>> >>> 0. I am asking for more info because now I am reading a study
>>>>>>>> paralleling
>>>>>>>> >>> my work for which the author made further distinctions than what
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> >>> originally requested
>>>>>>>> >>> 1. thnx- the original DMit amplified sequences came from JAX
>>>>>>>> Informatics;
>>>>>>>> >>> a colleague sent me the updated sequences which he cited as
>>>>>>>> >>> coming from UCSC- so your sending me back to JAX (now
>>>>>>>> reproduction
>>>>>>>> >>> not informatics) seems odd, but I am willing to try to follow
>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>> >>> suggestions
>>>>>>>> >>> once you respond to my more detailed objectives (below,
>>>>>>>> including ##
>>>>>>>> >>> annotations within your helpful suggestions##
>>>>>>>> >>> 2. let me try to be clearer
>>>>>>>> >>> 3. i have ca. 7500 DMit loci (amplified sequences) for usats
>>>>>>>> >>> (microsatellites) making it logistically difficult to handle one
>>>>>>>> locus at
>>>>>>>> >>> a
>>>>>>>> >>> time, which I think
>>>>>>>> >>> you imply below (these DMit amplification sequences are in your
>>>>>>>> >>> ucsc mouse DMit usat archive if I understand my colleague)
>>>>>>>> >>> 4. i am looking for excel files that would have for all DMit
>>>>>>>> usat loci
>>>>>>>> >>> the location of the amplified loci with respect to the
>>>>>>>> following; i.e.,
>>>>>>>> >>> which
>>>>>>>> >>> DMit usat loci are in introns? coding exons? etc):
>>>>>>>> >>> 4a. intron
>>>>>>>> >>> 4b. exon versus coding exons
>>>>>>>> >>> 4c. intergenic
>>>>>>>> >>> 4d. 3' and 5' UTR
>>>>>>>> >>> 4e. upstream from transcription start site
>>>>>>>> >>> 5. is there some way to do a "bulk submission" of all these DMit
>>>>>>>> >>> loci rather than piecemeal (one at a time as I think you imply)?
>>>>>>>> >>> Ann
>>>>>>>> >>> ## see below because I don't know what to list for what you
>>>>>>>> >>> state I need to submit
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Vanessa Kirkup Swing
>>>>>>>> >>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Hi Ann,
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Sorry for the delayed response. We suggest you try contacting
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>> mailing
>>>>>>>> >>>> list (http://reproductivegenomics.jax.org/mailing_list.html)
>>>>>>>> at the
>>>>>>>> >>>> Jackson Laboratory to see if you can obtain the sequences and
>>>>>>>> positions
>>>>>>>> >>>> from
>>>>>>>> >>>> for the DMit microsatellite markers.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Once you have those, go to the main page on our site. Click on
>>>>>>>> "Tables"
>>>>>>>> >>>> from the blue navigation bar to get to our table browser.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Set the clade, genome, and assembly.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> ## what goes into clade? I assume genome implies Mus musculus
>>>>>>>> >>> domesticus;
>>>>>>>> >>> i don't know what assembly means
>>>>>>>> >>> ## I need the output to come in excel or text delimited files
>>>>>>>> because I
>>>>>>>> >>> do
>>>>>>>> >>> the
>>>>>>>> >>> analyses in EXCEL and in ACCESS; i.e., these formats require a
>>>>>>>> >>> "dedicated"
>>>>>>>> >>> column for each kind of data
>>>>>>>> >>> ## my colleague sent me the DMit amplified sequences in FASTA
>>>>>>>> format;
>>>>>>>> >>> however, since the amplified sequence, has no regular
>>>>>>>> (predictable)
>>>>>>>> >>> structure,
>>>>>>>> >>> there is no way to program to get data into "dedicated columns";
>>>>>>>> i.e.,
>>>>>>>> >>> colA
>>>>>>>> >>> DMit
>>>>>>>> >>> locus name; colB amplified sequence
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> ## may I be sent your phone# so I can try calling if you fail to
>>>>>>>> >>> understand
>>>>>>>> >>> this? I am usually at 707 786 5342 except for Fridays; this week
>>>>>>>> has an
>>>>>>>> >>> unpredictable schedule because it is partly a vacation week;
>>>>>>>> otherwise
>>>>>>>> >>> that
>>>>>>>> >>> phone I will answer
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Set the following:
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> track: "UCSC Genes"
>>>>>>>> >>>> table: "knownGene"
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> ###
>>>>>>>> >>> ((this is where we need to have bulk submission since  I have
>>>>>>>> ca. 7500
>>>>>>>> >>> DMit
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> region: "position" and click on "define regions." Paste your
>>>>>>>> regions in
>>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>> box and click "submit"
>>>>>>>> >>>> output format: "all fields from selected table"
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> click "get output"
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> ## sorry but I am not good at making deductions unless I know
>>>>>>>> well what
>>>>>>>> >>> I am doing
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> exon= expressed gene
>>>>>>>> >>> intron= where the boundary of the exon is; the intron is outside
>>>>>>>> the exon
>>>>>>>> >>> boundary
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> ## given what I wrote above, how can the pcr silico be of use?
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> The result is the record for your gene. The exon/intron
>>>>>>>> boundaries can be
>>>>>>>> >>>> deduced from the exonStarts and exonEnds fields. If there are
>>>>>>>> many
>>>>>>>> >>>> fields in
>>>>>>>> >>>> the record that you don't need, you can hit the back button and
>>>>>>>> change
>>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>> output format to "selected fields from primary and related
>>>>>>>> tables."
>>>>>>>> >>>> Click
>>>>>>>> >>>> "get output" and select the fields you wish to see in your
>>>>>>>> results, be
>>>>>>>> >>>> sure
>>>>>>>> >>>> to include exonStarts and exonEnds since these fields contain
>>>>>>>> the data
>>>>>>>> >>>> you
>>>>>>>> >>>> asked about.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Also, you may be interested in UCSC In-Silico PCR for mapping
>>>>>>>> PCR
>>>>>>>> >>>> products.
>>>>>>>> >>>> To get to it, click on "PCR" from the blue navigation bar.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> Hope this helps! If you have further questions related to the
>>>>>>>> Genome
>>>>>>>> >>>> Browser, please contact the mailing list.
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> ## we are further along, but I want to hold off trying to use
>>>>>>>> UCSC
>>>>>>>> >>> (which I
>>>>>>>> >>> tried
>>>>>>>> >>> w/o help and got nowhere) but I think you are only giving me
>>>>>>>> >>> - intron
>>>>>>>> >>> - exon
>>>>>>>> >>> whereas I also need
>>>>>>>> >>> - recombination hotspots
>>>>>>>> >>> - coding exon versus noncoding exon
>>>>>>>> >>> - 3' and 5' UTR
>>>>>>>> >>> - intergenic
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>> Vanessa Kirkup Swing
>>>>>>>> >>>> UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>> >>>> From: "Ann Eileen Miller Baker"<[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> >>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>>>> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 7:53:57 PM
>>>>>>>> >>>> Subject: [Genome] pls reply to [email protected]
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> pls reply to [email protected] because I am unclear how
>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>> >>>> access
>>>>>>>> >>>> the
>>>>>>>> >>>> normal channel where replies are put
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> (1) How can I find mouse DMit (microsatellite loci) amplified
>>>>>>>> sequences?
>>>>>>>> >>>> (url)
>>>>>>>> >>>> (2) alleles at inbred strains for DMit microsatellite loci?
>>>>>>>> (url)
>>>>>>>> >>>> (3) How can I find which DMit microsatellite loci are in
>>>>>>>> >>>> - introns
>>>>>>>> >>>> - exons
>>>>>>>> >>>> - recombination hot spots
>>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> >>>> Genome maillist  -  [email protected]
>>>>>>>> >>>> https://lists.soe.ucsc.edu/mailman/listinfo/genome
>>>>>>>> >>>>
>>>>>>>> >>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> >>> Genome maillist  -  [email protected]
>>>>>>>> >>> https://lists.soe.ucsc.edu/mailman/listinfo/genome
>>>>>>>> >>>
>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
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