Hi Valeria,

I've alerted the engineers who work on the UCSC Genes pipeline to these 
genes.  It is possible that the annotations will change in future builds 
of UCSC Genes.

--
Brooke Rhead
UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group


On 05/26/11 15:42, Vasta, Valeria wrote:
> Thanks
> 
> It is confusing to me how the genes called TIMM23  (UCSC positive strand
> and refseq reverse strand)(not the TIMM23B) have been annotated with the
> same gene name if the exons are not shared and in different strands?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brooke Rhead [mailto:[email protected]] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 3:09 PM
> To: Vasta, Valeria
> Cc: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [Genome] TIMM23 (uc001jiu.2)
> 
> Hi Valeria,
> 
> In this case it is useful to turn on several gene tracks and compare how
> 
> each of them annotates this region.  Here is a session with several gene
> 
> tracks turned on:
> 
> http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTracks?hgS_doOtherUser=submit&hgS_other
> UserName=Rhead&hgS_otherUserSessionName=mlq4052
> 
> Not all of the tracks are in agreement (which is not surprising, as they
> 
> all use different methods to annotate genes).  It looks like most of the
> 
> tracks call the the gene on the reverse strand TIMM23.  Several of them 
> show another gene, TIMM23B, on the positive strand.  The UCSC Genes 
> annotation of the positive strand gene is much longer than most of the 
> other tracks, but note that it is displayed in light blue, which means 
> there is less evidence for it than there is for the one on the reverse 
> strand, which is displayed in Medium blue.
> 
> The color key for UCSC Genes is:
> 
> * Black -- feature has a corresponding entry in the Protein Data Bank
> (PDB)
> * Dark blue -- transcript has been reviewed or validated by either the 
> RefSeq, SwissProt or CCDS staff
> * Medium blue -- other RefSeq transcripts
> * Light blue -- non-RefSeq transcripts
> 
> I hope this helps you interpret what you are seeing in the Genome
> Browser.
> 
> --
> Brooke Rhead
> UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
> 
> 
> 
> On 05/26/11 13:49, Vasta, Valeria wrote:
>> uc001jiu.2 is contained within an intron of TIMM23 and in the reverse
>> strand so it shouldn't be called TIMM23, it is a different gene?
>>
>>
>>
>> Valeria 
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Vanessa Kirkup Swing [mailto:[email protected]] 
>> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 11:44 AM
>> To: Vasta, Valeria
>> Cc: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Genome] TIMM23 (uc001jiu.2)
>>
>> Hi Valeria,
>>
>> Please take a look at the track description to see how a transcript is
>> assigned a permanent "uc" accession. 
>>
>> In this case, I would assume you are looking at UCSC Genes on hg19
>> (http://genome.ucsc.edu/cgi-bin/hgTrackUi?db=hg19&g=knownGene). Please
>> keep in mind that this track is generated from gene predictions based
> on
>> data from RefSeq, Genbank, CCDS and UniProt.
>>
>>
>> Using the table browser to obtain the data for that particular gene
>> symbol you can see that each of the transcripts with "uc" accessions
>> (knownGene.name) each have a different protein ID (which is the
> UniProt
>> display ID for Known Genes, UniProt accession or RefSeq protein ID for
>> UCSC Genes).
>>
>>
>> #hg19.knownGene.name hg19.knownGene.strand   hg19.knownGene.proteinID
>> hg19.kgXref.geneSymbol
>> uc001jin.2           +                       O14925
>> TIMM23
>> uc001jiu.2           -                       NP_006318
>> TIMM23
>> uc010qha.1           +                       B4DDK6
>> TIMM23
>> uc010qhb.1           +
>> TIMM23
>> uc010qhc.1           +                       B7ZB25
>> TIMM23
>>
>>
>>
>> I hope that this helps to clarify why there are different "uc"
>> identifiers for a particular gene symbol.
>>
>> If you have further questions, please contact the mailing list:
>> [email protected].
>>
>> Vanessa Kirkup Swing
>> UCSC Genome Bioinformatics Group
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Valeria Vasta" <[email protected]>
>> To: [email protected]
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:09:09 PM
>> Subject: [Genome] TIMM23 (uc001jiu.2)
>>
>> HELLO
>>
>>  
>>
>> THERE ARE TWO TIMM23 annotated and they are in two  opposite
> directions.
>> Can you please let me know about this?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>>  
>>
>> Valeria 
>>
>>  
>>
>>
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