On Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009, Marcus D. Hanwell wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 10:17:56 Mark Haney wrote:
> > Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > > On Mittwoch 07 Januar 2009, Mark Haney wrote:
> > >> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > >>> with kdeprefix everything lands in /usr/kde/<version> which is cool
> > >>> and usefull
> > >>>
> > >>> without kdeprefix everything ends in /usr which is stupid and hurts
> > >>> you if you want to try different kde versions - or have several
> > >>> versions installed so you can always go back easily when the newest
> > >>> one breaks. But it is FHS compliant.
> > >>>
> > >>> At the beginning gentoo was 'screw stupid standards, do the sensible
> > >>> thing' - but in the mean time the 'if there is a standard we have to
> > >>> adhere to it no matter how idiotic' crowd has got way to much power.
>
> I am apparently part of this crowd, but what you are saying seems to have a
> large amount of your opinion with a sprinkling of fact. Almost all other
> packages install into /usr and it is in fact a Gentoo policy that packages
> install into /usr and follow FHS where practical. This has been a policy
> for many years...
>
> Upstream does not support installing into prefixes and this has in fact
> made KDE difficult to support in the past, and has led to Gentoo specific
> bugs along with issues linking to the right libs etc...
>

kde was once installed into /opt so it wouldn't clutter /usr - which I always 
liked in the past. KDE didn't clutter /usr like gnome does. That made it easy 
to find and change everything/something belonging to kde. So when I arrived at 
gentoo and saw kde going to /usr/kde I was a happy camper.

At the moment I am using the live ebuilds - and it saved my ass several times, 
that I can make an easy backup of it (just tar it up) before the next upgrade. 
Same for the 4.1.8X versions. Heck, in the past, I backed up 3.5 before every 
version upgrade too, just in case - and it was a good thing to do so. 

Why adhere to a standard that *increases* clutter and makes it harder to have 
several versions of an app installed?


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