Just an addition to Jason's comments:
I guess we're all grown people here, or almost there ;), so I guess
there is no need for childlish arguing and such. I mean there will be
missunderstandings, conflicts, fights and so on, but there is a very
dignified way of doing these things. After all you don't want to come
of as an ass to the rest of the group, do you? Of course state your
opinion tell it the way you feel, but leave it open for discussion and
for other people to come in with their opinion. After all it is an open
community and everybody is welcome in, so we should try the best to keep
it running smoothly and have more relaxed and ejoyable working/playing
enviroment.
just my 2 cents.
On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 23:49, Jason Rhinelander wrote:
> I haven't seen any nastiness in this thread, but I have to agree to an
> extent with C. Brewer's comments. If you are using a gentoo.org e-mail
> address, you are obviously a dev, and are acting on behalf of Gentoo
> itself - regardless of whether or not you preface you comment with
> "These opinions are my own, not (necessarily) those of Gentoo." As a
> developer, your opinions are a large part of what makes up Gentoo, and
> so _do_ reflect on Gentoo as a whole. It seems being a developer should
> carry some responsibility with it, without place for a "I only act like
> a dev when I feel like it" attitude.
>
> On the other hand, I don't mean to point any fingers in this specific
> instance - especially not at Jon, who IMHO represents Gentoo well - but
> there _are_ some devs out there who on occasion through bickering and
> nasty remarks give _all_ Gentoo devs, and Gentoo itself, a bad name.
> For most of us, it doesn't make the slightest difference whether or not
> you add a "these are my own opinions" disclaimer. You're still a Gentoo
> developer making a comment. A meaningless disclaimer doesn't change
> that.
>
>
> On Sun, 2003-11-02 at 22:40, Jon Portnoy wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I can put a "Opinions are my own and not those of Gentoo Linux or any
> > > > other entity unless stated otherwise" disclaimer in my sig like I do on
> > > > the forums if it's necessary.
> > >
> > > Being not the first time I've heard something along these lines, forgive me if
> > > I am slightly skeptical. Opinions are your own, regardless of if they
> > > coincide with Gentoo's. But as a person who is entitled to any opinion, nasty
> > > or otherwise, while yet still at least partly responsible for steering the
> > > distibution... where does the line get drawn? Do we take nasty responses as
> > > merely personal opinion until a required number of devs have a similar view
> > > on it, and then it's official?
> >
> > I'd like to think I'm frank about things rather than an asshole about
> > things, in any case.
> > ("But I thought you were Jon...")
> >
> > In all seriousness, I haven't seen anyone say anything especially
> > inflammatory.
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