On Thu, 2005-10-20 at 12:17 -0700, Donnie Berkholz wrote: > |>See > |>http://dev.gentoo.org/~spyderous/xorg-x11/porting_to_modular_x_howto.txt. > | > | That file says there won't be any x11-related virtuals anymore. Are > you sure > | no package uses it in the sense of 'any X server' instead of 'any X > client > | libs+headers'? > > I'm not aware of any. The only similar thing I'm aware of is a few > incredibly broken packages that require Xvfb at build time.
I know that we have used it to mean "requires an X server locally" for some games. > If there are packages that need to run any X server at build time, > they're even more broken. Nah, these were RDEPEND. There's probably a better way to go about it anyway. If you've got any ideas, I'd love to hear them, as this is something I'm going to have to tackle shortly. > > | Firstly, as I said in my other replies, this would change the current > meaning > | of the X USE flag. The original meaning would stay without a flag. > | > | Today it means 'enable support for clienside X11'. You want to make it > mean > | 'install X11 server'. If I'm building a headless box without an X11 > server, > | but I do want to emerge KDE and run it over ssh -Y from another box, I > need > | two useflags to specify this. But even if we introduce a new USE flag > | 'Xserver', on by default where X is on by default, and used as you > describe > | above, the problems I describe below will remain. > > Does it really mean that? How about all of the X USE flags in font > ebuilds? They mean basically what I'm saying. ...or games ebuilds. Apparently, we've been doing it wrong for a while, too. Granted, many of these games *also* happen to require libX11, but not all of them do. > | Secondly, there can be more than one X11 server (kdrive, etc). > Depending on > | xorg-server is bad. If anything, we should introduce a virtual/x11-server. > | > | Thirdly, it's a 'convenience dep': whether xorg-server is installed or > not > | won't affect the behavior of KDE in any way (given a working DISPLAY > | setting). > > Right, the intent is to basically say "I'm part of the 90% of users who > has X installed locally and wants things to just work." Right. > | deciding which fonts KDE should depend on :-) > > Selected arbitrarily by the x11 team based on requirement, common use > and prettiness factor. Probably font-misc-misc, font-bh-ttf, > font-adobe-utopia-type1 and maybe some others that are brought to my > attention. Nnnoooo! No Type1 bloat! :P -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering - Strategic Lead x86 Architecture Team Games - Developer Gentoo Linux
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