On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 20:03 +0100, Patrick Lauer wrote: > On Mon, 2006-01-02 at 12:50 -0600, Lance Albertson wrote: > > A mission statement only goes so far. The underlying leadership has to > > make sure that statement is upheld and kept alive. Too many folks have a > > mission statement, but no one ever remembers what it is or abides by it. > I guess there isn't one driving force behind Gentoo - we have many > differing opinions on things like QA, handling of bugs, ... > > It's just that usually Gentoo gets the least in your way when you're > trying > to do something :-) > > > I guess I'm almost hinting at that Gentoo needs a single entity that's > > sole purpose is to drive/research the direction and goals for Gentoo. > There was this Robbins guy ... remember him? ;-) > > It'd be almost ceo-like, but the council is still top dawg. Right now, I > > view our group as a bunch of chiefs with no real single leader saying > > "lets strive to do this". The main problem is, too many people fear > > about such a person could turn into a dictator, so I'm not sure if this > > could ever happen. > I wonder if any single person would be accepted? > After all there is noone capable of forcing anyone to do anything as far > as I can tell - worst case you fork Gentoo (again) and don't resolve > the issues. > > This person would be in constant contact of all the > > groups and try to muck together what everyone is doing. They could > > suggest things to help minimize user impact, maybe try to join two > > projects if they are both working on a similar goal, thus minimizing the > > workload. Stuff like that essentially. > Communication ... should happen anyway, but it seems to get more and > more > difficult. Another layer of bureaucracy won't help that ... > > We need a good visionary. If such > > a position were created, I also think that person's sole focus should be > > that focus within Gentoo. (i.e. they aren't a major contributor for a > > subproject in Gentoo). This position would take too much time for them > > to keep those other duties. > ... and you'd burn out a capable person within half a year I think > > Dunno, maybe I'm the loner here thinking this... > Maybe a bit idealistic, but I mostly agree :-)
Upon doing some reading about what _exactly_ Gentoo council does, it seems to me that Gentoo Council is an operations board. I think what Patrick and Lance are getting at (correct me if I'm wrong) is that we need to have some form of Governance board. A board that doesn't worry about implementation details; a board that gives a long term vision to our project. I am a big believer is having a common goal to unite all people who work with an organization. I'm sorry If I am repeating myself, but I feel this is an issue that is vital to the continued success of Gentoo. -Lares -- Lares Moreau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | LRU: 400755 http://counter.li.org lares/irc.freenode.net | Gentoo x86 Arch Tester | ::0 Alberta, Canada Public Key: 0D46BB6E @ subkeys.pgp.net | Encrypted Mail Preferred Key fingerprint = 0CA3 E40D F897 7709 3628 C5D4 7D94 483E 0D46 BB6E
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