Kalin KOZHUHAROV wrote: > Jeffrey Forman wrote: >> On Sun, 2006-02-26 at 22:54 -0500, Andrew Muraco wrote: >>> I second that there is a massive confusion of naming, and this needs to >>> get sorted out (or atleast explained) Because I'm sure the mirrors will >>> start getting slamed with people downloading 2006.0. Lets not waste >>> anyone's bandwidth nor the mirrors by leading people to download the >>> wrong thing. >>> >> Andrew, >> >> I do not mean to cop an attitude, but please give me some time here to >> figure this out. This is the first time I myself am handling the bouncer >> administration for a release, and I would really appreciate some >> patience on your part. >> >> I am updating the page as fast as I find an error in it. Thanks. > > Thank you for your effort, Jeffrey! > > It may turn a good day after all :-) > > Have you (or RT) actually thought of providing a pivoted list for downloads? > I feel it is more reasonable to first choose your arch (i.e. on what hardware > you want to install Gentoo) and then see what options you have. > > As opposed to the following imaginary n00b: > 1. I want a "Universal CD"! > > 2. Hmm, it is not that universal if I need to choose my arch (I've read > the link on arches!)! > > 3. Hey, wait a minute! What is that 64bit - 32bit userland ??? What is 64bit? > What is userland? (wasn't coverd under arches) > > 4. Lets do some research... ok, I got it there is difference between kernel > that is 64bit and userland, cool! They should have stated: 64bit kernel + > 32bit userland (and a plus is better than a minus, even if it is a hyphen) > > 5. Hmm, but I am using P4 after all, so I need x86! > > 6. Oops, where is the x86 Universal CD? > > 7. OK, there is a lonely x86 link under "Gentoo 2006.0 LiveCD", probably that > is what I need. But why did the change the name??? > > 8. Oh cool they have torrents here! Let me get that x86 Live CD with my > torrent tool! Should probably be faster... (click on the torrent link) > > 9. Hmm, that x86-livecd-2006.0 should probably do. It is a CD image, so > probably is an ISO file... Click! > > 10. Lets get some coffee, I am tired. But wait, what are these stages bla-bla > (reading the handbook) OK, great, I might need them (didn't read that > thoroughly after all, kind of tired). The torrents are not that fast after > all and there are not enough seeds for stage3-x86-2006.0... (click back) > > 11. And where is the x86 package CD after all!!! Oh, it might be "part" > of the LiveCD? I wonder, but is there any documentation (looking around > the page...) Anywhere I can see the contents of the ISO files [1] (looking > and clicking around...) no. > > 12. Sip from a big mug of coffee - Gentoo is not that hard after all, lets > wait and see what am I downloading... > > > [1] It might be a good idea to implement that. > > > So sometiing like: > > Select your download according to your hardware architecture. (see ... > for info on architectures or ... for the explanaiton of different CD > types ) > > x86 (486, PentiumIII, Celeron... define it better) > minimal livecd > > amd64 (AMD Athlon64 ...) > minimal install packages > ..... > > > This will be easier not only for n00bs, I guess and is inspired by the > "Don't MAKE me think" book on web design/usability.
On a second note, the design of our packages.gentoo.org is not bad at all! Why not use it? For example see: http://packages.gentoo.org/packages/?category=net-misc;name=curl Replace PV with the different CDs (use <acronym title="Short explanation here">), add the speacial "arches" like 64-32ul with acronym as well. Dunnow about colors, but use them consistently (with a legend). Kalin. -- |[ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ]| +-> http://ThinRope.net/ <-+ |[ ______________________ ]| -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list
