ср, 30 июл. 2025 г. в 11:50, Filip Kobierski <[email protected]>: > > > In that case, perhaps you should show some grace to those whose work > > > you've used for 12 years, accept the apology [1] and [2] stop [3] > > > beating [4] a [5] dead [6] horse [7]. > > > [1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/960773#c1 > > > [2] https://bugs.gentoo.org/957712#c23 > > > [3] https://bugs.gentoo.org/957712#c25 > > > [4] https://bugs.gentoo.org/957712#c28 > > > [5] https://bugs.gentoo.org/957712#c36 > > > [6] https://bugs.gentoo.org/960773#c1 > > > > [7] https://bugs.gentoo.org/960773#c6 > > > [8] https://bugs.gentoo.org/957712#c38 > > > > > You got it wrong: It is 12 years of testing and reporting bugs. > > You write as if giving feedback on Gentoo's packaging required > only your work. Please acknowledge that __using anything__ > from ::gentoo meant that someone had to work on it and that > being a user, even an active one, is way less demanding than a > package maintainer, not even a developer! > > > And it is not beating a dead horse but giving feedback you need. > > Seeing as you have been muted and no one seems to protest I would > wager what you call feedback is not needed. > > As a human being I can say that the 8 links show that besides > providing technical feedback you also needlessly throw in > aggressive statements. I cannot think of any other use for them > that to make the people responsible (volunteers!) feel bad. This > is a _very_ bad way of trying to get someone to do something. > > > > Let me try to constructively criticize bug report #960773 as a > non-developer. > You stated what the problem is and with the help of a LLM > figured out why it happened. This I think is good! > However the last paragraph: > > I’ve been using Gentoo for 12 years and I have never been so > > disappointed by the Gentoo as I was when this happened to say > > the least. > > Why even mention it? Does it help getting the bug fixed? > You have lost your files, it was not your fault and you feel bad. > > This is understandable. I think mentioning it serves no purpose > though. Then you mention the 12 years. Yes, it is a long time. > Is it relevant? I do not think so. > > This gives the report a tone that you are superior to people > working on it (see also "failure of common sense in general") > and as the superior you criticize, sometimes aggressively, and > demand someone's action as if you paid them and were their boss. > Your communication style was just inappropriate in these bugs so > I agree with Sam's "The tone of this isn't OK". > > > > I assume that as a long-time user you want the best for the > distribution. Trying to shame volunteers into work _will_ do more > harm than good so do not try to do that. Please accept that > and show our developers basic respect (or even gratefulness ;)). > > Regards > fkobi
Please, consider the following situation: Construction workers drop a central heating radiator on a resident’s foot. The resident cries out in pain. Construction worker Sam walks in and stuffs a gag into the resident’s mouth. The resident protests Sam’s actions. Construction worker Arsen: "Sam is one of the most prolific construction workers, if not the most prolific." Construction worker Matt: "You should show more appreciation, considering how much you've benefited from our work." Construction worker Andreas: "You wouldn't be crying if you'd had life insurance <https://bugs.gentoo.org/957712#c24>." Anticipating further developments: Representative of the construction company: "Have you seen the notice on the door saying you’re using this building at your own risk?"
