On Thursday 18 May 2006 14:11, Stephen Bennett wrote:
> On Thu, 18 May 2006 09:19:58 +0200
>
> Jochen Maes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 1) If Paludis has no business in replacing portage on systems (shame,
> > if it's better/faster it should) why are we having this discussion.
> > I understand that you need a profile and with an overlay you need to
> > copy the profiles dir (the whole profiles dir) but be serious that's
> > only So my question would you be able to do tests without changing
> > the official tree by copying the profiles dir in an own overlay.
>
> We could put profiles in an overlay, but it would require adding
> support for inheriting profiles relative to another repository path
> rather than relative to the current directory. Doable, but another
> place to be incompatible with Portage, so something I'd like to avoid
> having to do if possible.

Then copy the bloody profile, or temporarilly add some magic in paludis 
that ignores portage and python deps. Not that hard to do. While not so 
beautiful it can easilly be removed at a later stage.
>
> > 2) If Paludis will be installed on a system to test, and installs
> > packages, will portage be aware of that installation, and will it be
> > able to remove it (meaning Paludis changes the portage VDB correctly
> > when needed). (i've seen you explain that Paludis can read it but not
> > that it can write it correctly)
>
> Paludis can read a Portage VDB last time I tried, but a
> Paludis-generated VDB will confuse Portage.

How far does that spread? Is this only for packages merged by paludis, or 
does it spread? And what reasons are there for paludis not to have a vdb 
format that will not confuse portage.

It is very important that package managers coexist with portage. This 
allows testing of that package manager, but also the testing of a 
package / eclass on different package managers. It would be irrealistic 
to require devs to have a different installation just for testing 
packages with paludis/pkgcore.


> > 3) If using an own binary format will there be an extracter for it
> > that isn't part of Paludis?
>
> Yes; it's called tar.
>
> > 4) Will Paludis ever become a Gentoo Project?
>
> Doubtful, barring some rather drastic changes in Gentoo and the way its
> projects are handled.

So you are asking to go towards replacing portage with a package manager 
that is not under gentoo control?

Paul

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