On Tue, 2006-10-03 at 02:56 +0200, Lionel Bouton wrote:
> Here's an updated draft. I included most of your remarks and added some
> notes on append-flags/filter-flags. I'll probably submit it to Ulrich
> around the end of the week.

I surely hope you don't submit it to Ulrich if you want it to actually
ever get in the GWN.  Instead, you should submit it to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] like the GWN tells you to do.

=]

Thanks,

> --- Draft BEGIN ---
> <section>
> <title>CFLAGS</title>
> <body>
> 
> <p>
> Being able to tune the CFLAGS is part of one of the core principles of
> Gentoo: let the user be in control. Being in control brings both
> benefits and problems and CFLAGS tuning is not an exception.
> </p>
> <p>
> The recent upgrade to gcc-4.1.1 for x86 and amd64 users changed the
> landscape. Users that spent some time tuning their CFLAGS with gcc-3.4.6
> might find out that an upgrade to gcc-4.1.1 leaves them with an unstable
> system. Example of this are :
> <ul>
> <li>nss_ldap stopped working with <c>-ffast-math</c> (reported to break
> many packages changing with the actual gcc version)</li>
> <li><c>-fvisibility-inlines-hidden</c> still breaks some code</li>
> <li>if you used gcc-4.0, <c>-ftree-loop-linear</c> now breaks in
> gcc-4.1(at least with mesa)</li>
> <li>again for gcc-4.0 users, <c>-ftree-vectorize</c> is known to be
> broken in gcc-4.1 (at least for x86 and ppc, amd64 users seem to be
> safe)</li>
> <li><c>-fforce-addr</c> and <c>-fweb</c> break regularly on x86 with
> video libraries or graphic processing apps which use hand-optimised ASM</li>
> </ul>
> </p>
> <p>
> Users with unsupported CFLAGS (see the <uri
> link='http://gentoo-wiki.com/CFLAGS_matrix'>CFLAGS matrix</uri> for
> example) might want to return to safe CFLAGS (see <uri
> link='http://gentoo-wiki.com/Safe_Cflags'>Safe CFLAGS</uri>) if recent
> updates caused them stability problems. On the other hand, more
> adventurous users might want to experiment with CFLAGS that didn't work
> properly with gcc-3.4.6... As always, the user is in control.
> </p>
> <p>
> Notes:
> <ul>
> <li>The gcc man page contains warnings for some unsafe optimization
> options. You should read it carefully when you experiment with CFLAGS or
> upgrade GCC on a CFLAGS-customized Gentoo.</li>
> <li>Some options that are unsafe in the system-wide CFLAGS might be
> added automatically in some ebuilds if the developper deems them safe
> (by redefining CFLAGS or using append-flags of the flag-o-matic eclass).
> For example <c>-ffast-math</c> is added by the xmame/xmess ebuilds on
> most architectures even if you don't put it in your CFLAGS.</li>
> <li>You might get an idea of the stability issues of a specific
> optimization option by running: <c>find /usr/portage -name '*.ebuild'|
> xargs grep -- '-<your-risky-optimization-option>'</c>. It takes quite
> some time, but might be enlightening: look for the 'filter-flags'.</li>
> </ul>
> </p>
> </body>
> </section>
> --- Draft END ---
> 
> Lionel
-- 
Chris Gianelloni
Release Engineering Strategic Lead
Alpha/AMD64/x86 Architecture Teams
Games Developer/Council Member/Foundation Trustee
Gentoo Foundation

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