George Prowse wrote:
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 01:19:52 +0000 George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
What on earth is going to be a "major visible improvement" to a
command line based package manager that any average Gentoo user is
going to realise? The average user probably only uses a few commands:
emerge -u/p/a/v/--sync/package/world/system and then use package.keywords/mask/unmask so there are really no fundamental differences that the average user will notice

If you think that that's all a package manager should do, you have a
serious lack of imagination. Most users need or would heavily benefit
from far more. See http://ciaranm.org/show_post/95 for some modest
ideas that have turned out to be useful.
All well and good (and I agree that those would be nice) but none that today's average Gentoo user is going to notice as a "major visible improvement". --depclean has improved dramatically so the --uninstall will be just another way of doing it.
If the target is "today's average Gentoo user", how about a big disclaimer to go with every "emerge -Du world" in the form of "This is a list of suggestions. New versions come with new bugs. Take some responsibility for your system stability and don't upgrade carelessly". In fact, "emerge -Du world" should imply --pretend ;) (Also, mandate that there be a link to upstream changelogs (or a summary thereof) in a packages changelog in portage. Help users make informed decisions about upgrades. Some devs already do this e.g. joshuabaergen for xorg stuff and dsd for gentoo-sources - although I generally have to go hunting for those because emerge -l doesn't show changes between slots)

j.
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