[EMAIL PROTECTED] kirjoitti:
Well I'm a newcomer to Gentoo and never heard of Sabayon (great project btw). Knowing no one here or there, nor any history:
Never heard of and you say it's a great project?
This conversation reminds me of Human Resources. They always have 'procedures' and 'career tracks.' Gentoo's chitchat about earning gold stars and brownie points is giving me HR sickness. You're asking Michael Jordan to prove himself on the high school team.
> You don't know Sabayon and can evaluate the skills of lxnay?
I've read Gentoo's new dev announcements about monkeys and paper weights. People with a couple of small open-source projects. The monkeys and paper weights get CVS rights. Then the chief architect of Sabayon is scotched over bugzilla output? Please. That smells like bad fish.
The new dev announcements are traditionally written in a funky way.
Bugzillas are mostly good for non-devs to report bugs. I know zero developers who first think to themselves, "ok, I need a project bugzilla...then I can begin writing code." That isn't how development works.
> But I don't know any major project not having a bug reporting tool.
"So you don't have time to file bugs but you would have time to fix them" is rhetoric. The issue is ROI. Why file bugzillas that some "dev" authority figure may or may not fix in two years, when you can fix the code yourself?
>The perception of things rottening in bugzilla hasn't been proven. Here are the response times to bug filed by lxnay in 2007 and 2008:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160333 * first response in two days (and marked as WONTFIX but later reopened) * interactions could be better on either sides https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=188024 * Fixed in two days https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=192786 * Fixed in 7 hours after patch submission https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=193337 * Your "expert" is missing basic ebuild knowledge --> WORKSFORME * 9 minutes https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=199886 * little under two months (yes this is too long) https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=211324 * Been open a couple of weeks waiting for other changes (borderline)We do have lots of stuff that rot in bugzilla in many cases they are requests for new ebuilds and not problems with existing ebuilds.
If you want to call him a Gentoo developer, then do so ASAP, and give him CVS. He knows what he is doing and filing bugzillas is a waste of talent. If you let him fix his own bugzillas he might go for that.
There is nothing stopping him from taking the quizzes as any other new dev. If he is as good say you he is, answering the quizzes won't take long.
You need to attract people like this and if bugzilla isn't working, think up something new.
Bugzilla isn't the only way new people come in. >
If you dislike his CVS mods you can always revert, take votes, etc. But I say +1 let him have at it.
Very useful after it has already been synced to tons of machines and users are hitting our IRC channels with torches.
Regards, Petteri
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