Petteri Räty wrote:
Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto kirjoitti:
Petteri Räty wrote:


As others have commented, I don't agree with this point. Also, you're forgetting we have quite a few people working on this project and that we have many different roles.
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And you are assuming that undertakers wouldn't check their role before acting.


I read it as a rule to drop developers. If we're only talking about it raising a warning to undertakers so they can check the dev status, then I don't have a problem with the proposal.

Recalling previous discussions about work on gentoo and some of the existing roles, what will you do to AT folks, release members or QA members? Are they also obliged to do a weekly commit to keep their "privileges"?

AT folks aren't devs and see above.


To be clear, I didn't meant arch testers but people that do keywords for arch teams.

Finally, I thought the whole point of removing access to infra boxes (which is the end result of retiring a dev), was a concern with security and not a way to get rid of people - with the exception of administrative action by devrel.

Security and gives us a better picture on what is really maintained and what is not.


But in that case I don't think that the level of commits is the best indicator if someone is maintaining properly a package or not. The number of open bugs and the mean time that it takes for the developer to react to a bug might give us a better picture.


As a final thought, I think this point is a tangent to the old debate about tree-wide commit privileges and or the scm of the tree. Afterall, if gentoo-x86 was a git tree and or we had acls in the tree, I don't think we would be having or would need to have this argument.


If we used git, proxy maintaining would be easier.

True, but with some acls we could also have a different model where people worked on parts of the tree and where commit privileges didn't pose so many security risks. With the current practice of doing work in overlays it would also be simpler to merge the work back into the Portage tree.


Regards,
Petteri


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