On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:11 +0100, Peter Weller wrote: > On Sun, 2008-04-20 at 19:36 +0200, Gilles Dartiguelongue wrote: > > Le dimanche 20 avril 2008 à 20:25 +0300, Alon Bar-Lev a écrit : > > > On 4/20/08, Gilles Dartiguelongue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > for what it's worth, as a gnome dev I didn't see any convincing > > > > arguments as to why it should be renamed. Gnome makes things optional > > > > for other to reuse (like xfce) but afaik no other "keyring" like > > > > programs are optional deps of another package in portage. Let's not > > > > cast > > > > a simple change into breakage for users already using it (even in > > > > stable, and yes I'm lazy :D). > > > > > > Lazy is the word. > > > I cannot argue with this one, I just know that it won't be the gnome > > > herd who do the work when the time come to fix this (resolve > > > conflict). > > > The gnome herd will re-introduce the lazy ticket, and make other herd > > > use yet another confusing USE flag. > > > This is not the right way to maintain long term constants. > > > > failure, you tried to argue ;) > > > > > You asked for objections... You got some. > > > > > > You can leave this local USE flag, and stay with generic term. > > > Or you can rename it when it goes global so it have proper name. > > > You can also ignore this and force gnome onto all users. > > > > Seriously though, when I find stuff to fix, I try to fix it. I just > > don't see anything to fix right now. > > There are currently three options in my mind: to rename the USE flag as > 'gnome-keyring', to just globalize the 'keyring' USE flag as is, or to > remove the USE flag completely. Each have a number of downs and ups: > > Renaming > 1) We have to change 9 ebuilds to reflect the change > 2) Almost all Gnome users will be affected in one way or another > 3) Technically correct > 4) Reduces chances of future collisions > 5) More work for developers > > Keeping it as is > 1) Less headache for Gnome users in the short term (but possibly > more if we rename it in the future > 2) Less work for me/Gnome herd > 3) Technically incorrect > 4) Could result in conflicts in the future > > Removing > 1) Nice and simple. Just force all packages to compile with > --gnome-keyring > 2) A large number of users will probably start complaining about > all their packages being compiled with gnome-keyring support > 3) Xfce people will hate hate hate, I will be crucified. > > After consideration of the above, and consultation with the Gnome herd, > I think that the best option would be to rename the USE flag to > gnome-keyring. > > If anyone has any objections to *that*, pipe up before tomorrow evening. All done. If anyone spots any missed packages/problems, feel free to fix or poke me to fix it.
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