On 05/15/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote:
> On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:03:13 +0200
> Luca Barbato <lu_z...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> 
>> On 05/15/2013 03:41 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote:
>>> ... GNOME ...
>>
>> And given that the end-plan according to the guys is to kill the
>> distributions shall we just close Gentoo now?
> 
> Let's not exaggerate things, there are a ton of other DEs out there;
> are all of them starting to depend on systemd specific features?

Luckily not, yet _that_'s what is in the roadmap apparently.

> Whether or not it is terrible, it is a time sink; is it worth doing it?

For any non-linux, less-than-3.x-linux, non-glibc system user probably.

> Indeed, the goal here is solely to make "systemd more accessible"; we
> shouldn't pursue it to be the main init system or force it upon users,
> unless there are indicators in the future that it became better (eg.
> supports BSD, ...) for everyone.

And that has my support, there is disagreement on what that entitles.

> Used GNOME for months, then with 3.6 - 3.8 it started to break on me;
> it didn't work on either OpenRC or systemd. While I was a happy user at
> first, recent events made me lose interest in it; I think a discussion
> regarding init systems and similar software shouldn't be focused on a
> single DE, so I too am not sure why focus is laid on GNOME here...

Since it is the DE forcing all those changes down distribution throats.

lu

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