On 05/15/2013 07:26 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Wed, 15 May 2013 17:03:13 +0200 > Luca Barbato <lu_z...@gentoo.org> wrote: > >> On 05/15/2013 03:41 PM, Fabio Erculiani wrote: >>> ... GNOME ... >> >> And given that the end-plan according to the guys is to kill the >> distributions shall we just close Gentoo now? > > Let's not exaggerate things, there are a ton of other DEs out there; > are all of them starting to depend on systemd specific features?
Luckily not, yet _that_'s what is in the roadmap apparently. > Whether or not it is terrible, it is a time sink; is it worth doing it? For any non-linux, less-than-3.x-linux, non-glibc system user probably. > Indeed, the goal here is solely to make "systemd more accessible"; we > shouldn't pursue it to be the main init system or force it upon users, > unless there are indicators in the future that it became better (eg. > supports BSD, ...) for everyone. And that has my support, there is disagreement on what that entitles. > Used GNOME for months, then with 3.6 - 3.8 it started to break on me; > it didn't work on either OpenRC or systemd. While I was a happy user at > first, recent events made me lose interest in it; I think a discussion > regarding init systems and similar software shouldn't be focused on a > single DE, so I too am not sure why focus is laid on GNOME here... Since it is the DE forcing all those changes down distribution throats. lu