On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 11:37 PM, William Hubbs <willi...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Doug and Brian, I'm going to reply in a little more detail. > > On Sat, Aug 03, 2013 at 07:38:04PM -0700, Brian Dolbec wrote: > > On Sat, 2013-08-03 at 21:03 -0500, Doug Goldstein wrote: > > > On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 7:30 PM, William Hubbs <willi...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > > > On Sun, Aug 04, 2013 at 01:49:46AM +0300, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: > > > >> On Sun, Aug 4, 2013 at 1:38 AM, William Hubbs <willi...@gentoo.org> > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> OK... so gentoo-networking? or just come up with own name? > > > >> best-networking? > > > > > > > > > You and I have had this talk more times than I can remember at this > > > point. Using the name "oldnet" sucks and was one of the worst choices > > > possible. Looking through our IRC chats, I had also suggested > > > gentoo-networking. > > I thought about gentoo-networking, but that sucks in a way too because > it implies that everyone on gentoo should be using it. > > That's not quite right because we have at least five network stacks I > can think of off the top of my head, and OpenRc upstream supports > another. > > - OpenRc upstream supports newnet, which I have played with, and I > believe people on Gentoo are using successfully. > - what we have been calling the oldnet stack, which most gentoo users > have been using. > - dhcpcd in standalone mode. > - wicd > - NetworkManager > - badvpn
I do not understand... the 'old net' which is actually gentoo networking for years, are fully functional script to manage and create a lot of configurations, and one of the advantages we have at Gentoo over other distributions. The only reason why this is called old net is because Roy switched to *BSD. What you call new net requires vast knowledge in network tools usage and interaction, which makes life very difficult. Some examples I managed to document: http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/Firewall_Using_Firehol http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/OpenVPN_Server http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/OpenVPN_Non_Root http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/Vpnc_Non_Root http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/VM_Tap_Networking http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/PPP_Client http://alonbl.tropicalwikis.com/wiki/Gentoo/PPPoE_Client > As I have said before, none of this is an attempt to kill or deprecate > anything. It is just re-arranging things by moving the old gentoo > network stack into its own package. There are no plans to stop you from > using it if you want to use it. There is definitely nothing being said > here about the state of OpenRc in general. >From behind the words it indeed looks like there is a change coming. Alon
