On 06/17/2014 08:30, hasufell wrote:
> Joshua Kinard:
>> On 06/16/2014 21:47, hasufell wrote:
>>> Joshua Kinard:
>>>>
>>>> How big of a patch would this change require to the existing crossdev 
>>>> ebuild?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Probably quite trivial, but since vapier said "bs" to that proposal
>>> (translates to "bullshit" I guess) I'll not put any work into that.
>>>
>>> So there we go. If you are cool, you can just say "bs", vanish and leave
>>> stable arch in a broken state.
>>>
>>> Not even QA cares. Great. I'll try to get it on the next council agenda
>>> then.
>>
>> So you just take your ball and go home then?  That's not how it works.
>>
>> Create the patch, and file it as a bug.  Then, raise awareness on the ML.
>> That's how development works.  If your patch is reasonable and doesn't break
>> things, odds are likely it'll push the other members of toolchain to
>> consider incorporating it.
>>
>> Equally using the Council as a hammer all the time doesn't work in the
>> long-term, either.  If you whip a patch up, however, then not only could you
>> raise this at the next council meeting, but additionally state you've gone
>> that extra mile and created a patch that addresses the problem.
>>
>> That's taking the ball and putting it into the goal.
>>
> 
> No, that's not how opensource works. You don't work on things after
> "upstream" said "not interested".
> 
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504824

"upstream" didn't say anywhere in that bug that they weren't interested.
They countered your reasoning with a technical argument.  QA even states
that you need to file separate bugs for the various build failures.  You
could set up a master TRACKER bug for these crossdev-related issues, and
then link in any existing bugs or create new ones tied to it, and that way,
you have things documented.

-- 
Joshua Kinard
Gentoo/MIPS
ku...@gentoo.org
4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28

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