On 06/17/2014 08:30, hasufell wrote: > Joshua Kinard: >> On 06/16/2014 21:47, hasufell wrote: >>> Joshua Kinard: >>>> >>>> How big of a patch would this change require to the existing crossdev >>>> ebuild? >>>> >>> >>> Probably quite trivial, but since vapier said "bs" to that proposal >>> (translates to "bullshit" I guess) I'll not put any work into that. >>> >>> So there we go. If you are cool, you can just say "bs", vanish and leave >>> stable arch in a broken state. >>> >>> Not even QA cares. Great. I'll try to get it on the next council agenda >>> then. >> >> So you just take your ball and go home then? That's not how it works. >> >> Create the patch, and file it as a bug. Then, raise awareness on the ML. >> That's how development works. If your patch is reasonable and doesn't break >> things, odds are likely it'll push the other members of toolchain to >> consider incorporating it. >> >> Equally using the Council as a hammer all the time doesn't work in the >> long-term, either. If you whip a patch up, however, then not only could you >> raise this at the next council meeting, but additionally state you've gone >> that extra mile and created a patch that addresses the problem. >> >> That's taking the ball and putting it into the goal. >> > > No, that's not how opensource works. You don't work on things after > "upstream" said "not interested". > > https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=504824
"upstream" didn't say anywhere in that bug that they weren't interested. They countered your reasoning with a technical argument. QA even states that you need to file separate bugs for the various build failures. You could set up a master TRACKER bug for these crossdev-related issues, and then link in any existing bugs or create new ones tied to it, and that way, you have things documented. -- Joshua Kinard Gentoo/MIPS ku...@gentoo.org 4096R/D25D95E3 2011-03-28 "The past tempts us, the present confuses us, the future frightens us. And our lives slip away, moment by moment, lost in that vast, terrible in-between." --Emperor Turhan, Centauri Republic