Theoretically no.  When autotools is used correctly, the release tarball
has no dependency on either.  That said, many people don't generate /
distribute a release tarball.

However, I don't think this is the criterion used to determine what
should be in @system.  The wiki defines the system set as the set that
"contains the software packages required for a standard Gentoo Linux
installation to run properly".

That definition definitely excludes automake and autoconf (arguably gcc
should also excluded, under that definition, so the wiki might not be
100% correct).

-Nicholas Vinson

On 10/25/2016 07:11 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote:
> Don't you need autoconf and automake to build a lot of packages?
> 
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2016 at 7:03 AM, Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org
> <mailto:k...@gentoo.org>> wrote:
> 
>     On 10/25/2016 04:01 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote:
>     > On Mon, 24 Oct 2016 20:43:44 -0400
>     > Michael Orlitzky <m...@gentoo.org <mailto:m...@gentoo.org>> wrote:
>     >
>     >> Looking at profiles/base/packages, I see a bunch of lines that are
>     >> commented out. For example,
>     >>
>     >>   *sys-apps/which
>     >>   #*sys-devel/autoconf
>     >>   #*sys-devel/automake
>     >>   *sys-devel/binutils
>     >>   #*sys-devel/bison
>     >>   #*sys-devel/flex
>     >>   *sys-devel/gcc
>     >>
>     >> Does anyone know why those are commented as opposed to just.. not
>     >> there?
>     >
>     >
>     > Those used to be in @system and were dropped at some point once ebuilds
>     > had proper deps. My guess would be ppl wanted to keep them commented
>     > out just in case it appeared to be a bad idea to drop them and be able
>     > to "revert" easily. Nowadays, we can probably assume it was ok :)
>     >
> 
>     Indeed, to avoid confusion I'd suggest cleaning it up unless base-system
>     or QA has any objections.
> 
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