On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 2:32 PM, Kristian Fiskerstrand <k...@gentoo.org> wrote:
> On 12/14/2017 09:21 PM, R0b0t1 wrote:
>> It seems like lagging stability is due to a lack of resources. I do
>> not know a single person who would be able to run only stable
>> packages.
>
> I run stable only on most of my systems.
>
That is fine, but this thread exists because at least the OP thinks
stabilization is not happening quickly enough, likely because there
are not enough people working on it. Allowing stabilization work from
mixed systems might allow more people to help.
>> They seem to move too slowly, and people switch to unstable
>> packages because they contain bugfixes and sometimes new features.
>
> slow isn't necessarily a problem, as long as security fixes are handled.
> There is some balancing for large performance gains, but most existing
> systems are scaled based on the current estimates so it would only be
> relevant for the up sizing of the server park for growth needs etc.
>
>>
>> Could the criteria for stability be reconsidered? Mixed systems might
>
> why would it?
>
Per the question posed by OP the current state of affairs does not
seem to be working, and I have tried to point out one likely cause. If
it's hard to justify the criteria for stability then maybe the
criteria don't make sense.
>> not be supported, but save for cases of ABI/API breakage (which can
>> happen when transitioning from stable->stable) I do not know why the
>> packages would not play well with each other. I am sure there are
>> examples where things have blown up, but it seems like expecting that
>> to be the case isn't helping.
>
> There are plenty of cases where this fails in miserable ways, so thats
> not a good idea (not to mention the dependency hell from it). That said,
> you can have a stable chroot, or just use a VM for testing etc.
>
Can you be specific? Human memory is biased towards negative
experiences. If it's hard to actually describe the multitude of issues
that mixed systems cause then it is very likely mixed systems do not
cause many issues.
Personally, I have very few problems due to my mixed system, and less
than I would have on a stable system.
Cheers,
R0b0t1
