On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 07:24:45PM +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 2019-04-30 at 19:20 +0200, Kristian Fiskerstrand wrote: > > On 4/30/19 7:18 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > On Mon, 2019-04-29 at 22:34 +0200, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: > > > > In this article on chat services used for OSS: > > > > > > > > https://catfox.life/2019/04/28/keeping-libre-software-accessible-to-all/ > > > > > > > > I was surprised to see a mention of Gentoo as a project that uses > > > > "Discord > > > > as an official method of communication". When I searched, I indeed found > > > > https://discordapp.com/invite/gentoo. However, I'd never before heard we > > > > were using Discord (and didn't find any mentions of Discord on the -dev > > > > or > > > > -project mailing lists). > > > > > > > > Is this indeed an official venue? It's not listed on > > > > https://gentoo.org/support/ (which does mention IRC). > > > > > > > I've contacted the author and the author refused to change it. > > > The claim is that 'PR team runs it', '8 Gentoo developers have admin > > > rights', 'i.e. it is sanctioned by the project itself'. I was suggested > > > that if it's not official, we should close it instead. > > > > If that is how it is perceived I'd be in favor of outright closing it at > > least > > > I suppose the problem boils down to 'perceived by whom'. "What's official" is part of the problem.
The PR wiki page DOES list Discord as one of the official channels, along with other non-libre Silos. https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Project:Public_Relations#Social_silos_and_chat A better question is: in keeping with social contract, but balancing that users do want to be on different services, what material should be on each silo? - Announcements (copied to multiple locations) - chat/forum-style support mechanisms for users on those silos I disagree with awilfox's assertion that libre software should not _use_ non-libre silos; I feel a better statement is that libre software should not DEPEND on non-libre silos where possible, and offer libre alternatives (IRC, despite it's problems). -- Robin Hugh Johnson Gentoo Linux: Dev, Infra Lead, Foundation Treasurer E-Mail : robb...@gentoo.org GnuPG FP : 11ACBA4F 4778E3F6 E4EDF38E B27B944E 34884E85 GnuPG FP : 7D0B3CEB E9B85B1F 825BCECF EE05E6F6 A48F6136
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