On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 12:04 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 12:02 PM Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org>
> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 8:00 AM David Seifert <s...@gentoo.org>
> > wrote:
> > > On Sun, 2019-10-13 at 12:33 -0400, Mike Gilbert wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 1:52 PM David Seifert <s...@gentoo.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 19:01 +0200, Dennis Schridde wrote:
> > > > > > On Samstag, 12. Oktober 2019 18:02:28 CEST William Hubbs
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > On Sat, Oct 12, 2019 at 01:11:49PM +0200, Michał Górny
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > On Sat, 2019-10-12 at 13:00 +0200, David Seifert wrote:
> > > > > > > > > * Some distros have not just merged / and /usr, they
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >   have also merged /usr/bin and /usr/sbin. By giving
> > > > > > > > >   users the choice of merging */bin and */sbin,
> > > > > > > > >   Gentoo follows suit.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > What about the scenario when /bin has been merged with
> > > > > > > > /usr/sbin
> > > > > > > > and /sbin with /usr/bin?  ;-P
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I also don't see the need for something like this. The
> > > > > > > idea of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > /usr
> > > > > > > merge is to have all binaries available in one place, and
> > > > > > > there
> > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > is not a good justification for separating bin from sbin.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Do I read this correctly?  USE=-split-usr currently means
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > /bin,
> > > > > > /sbin, /
> > > > > > usr/bin and /usr/sbin point to the same directory?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > If that is not the case, then I agree that users should
> > > > > > have the
> > > > > > possibility
> > > > > > to set it up like this and USE=-split-sbin should be
> > > > > > supported.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --Dennis
> > > > > 
> > > > > I agree, I wasn't aware that USE=-split-usr implies the
> > > > > complete 2-
> > > > > level (/usr and *sbin) merge. In that case, all of this is
> > > > > obsolete.
> > > > 
> > > > That was NOT my intention when I introduced the split-usr USE
> > > > flag.
> > > > 
> > > > For bin/sbin, I would prefer to drop any conflicting links
> > > > unconditionally. Do you have examples of scenarios where this
> > > > is not
> > > > possible?
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > William has confirmed on IRC that USE=-split-usr performs the
> > > complete
> > > Fedora-esque /usr merge (which makes sense IMO).
> > 
> > William's opinion is not the only one that matters.
> 
> Sorry, I guess you are referring to the behavior baselayout? That
> doesn't necessarily align with the global usage.
> 

https://gitweb.gentoo.org/proj/baselayout.git/tree/Makefile#n93

Clearly the usr-merge in baselayout intends to merge all these 4
directories. There is currently no option to merge /usr and / but keep
/bin and /sbin separate, so the most parsimonious solution here is to
assume that usr-merge semantics in Gentoo is about merging all 4
directories.


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