El jue, 19-03-2020 a las 10:35 -0400, Mike Gilbert escribió: > On Thu, Mar 19, 2020 at 9:41 AM Mart Raudsepp <l...@gentoo.org> wrote: > > Ühel kenal päeval, K, 18.03.2020 kell 16:43, kirjutas Mike Gilbert: > > > Seems good to me in principle, but I'm not sure it is something we > > > > should do until we haven't promoted this into a global USE flag. > > > > > > An alternative would be to add entries in package.use. > > > > Yeah, that'd be what it is now, just done in systemd profile, not most > > of the separate systemd profiles. > > > > > > With the disclaimer of not knowing anything about dbus[user- > > > > session] on > > > > a non-systemd system - maybe it's just time to make user-session > > > > unconditionally enabled on dbus (and then bluez) instead? > > > > All it seems to do (on a very quick look) is install some extra > > > > systemd > > > > files - can't they just be always installed (by always passing -- > > > > enable-user-session) and call it a day? > > > > > > It looks like user-session has no effect if systemd is not in use. > > > > > > On systems running systemd, having the units installed automatically > > > enables the systemd user bus, and the only way to disable it is to > > > mask the units. Having the user bus enabled generally prevents > > > display > > > managers and startx from starting individual session buses, since > > > they > > > will use the user bus instead. That's probably fine, but I wanted to > > > note it. > > > > So how about we try to just always enable this instead in dbus and > > bluez? Anyone got any objections, provided the below can be handled? > > > > I peeked at bluez, and there USE=user-session exists to apply a patch > > to unbreak things when user-session is disabled. Unfortunately it seems > > to be needed there for non-systemd systems as well. I think we should > > be able to figure things out to work in all situations there, or make > > it be applied for USE=-systemd only (that's already the case there, > > just it is not applied for USE="systemd -user-session" right now). > > I think we can apply > 0001-Allow-using-obexd-without-systemd-in-the-user-session-r2.patch > unconditionally. > > The patched unit should work just fine with systemd, provided the user > bus is available. >
I agree, I see that also Debian is applying it unconditionally even when running systemd
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