Matt Turner wrote: > > > If you can find a case where you wouldn't want to enable one of these > > > USE flags, please let me know and I'll reconsider my position. > > > > My catalyst spec files all have use: -* foo bar x y z > > specifically because the defaults are never what I want for any given > > system. I build desktops, servers, containers, VM appliance images and > > embedded system, and I know what I want in each one. Especially the > > latter frequently have only very few USE flags set and I want zero > > extra dependencies. > > I think you're making a great argument that you'd be completely > unaffected by any of the suggestions in this thread.
I don't consider needing "use: -*" at all a desirable situation. This catalyst warning might support that: Warning!!! The use of -* in $stage/use will cause portage to ignore package.use in the profile and portage_confdir. You've been warned! I see it as a shortcoming of the standard profiles that I have to essentially create my own in order to get what I want, as opposed to being able to build upon something truly minimal. > > > I'd claim most of these packages' bzip2/lzma/zstd USE flags should > > > be removed in favor of statically enabling them > > > > That is the direct opposite of Gentoo's single most core value: choice > > Choice makes sense when there's a legitimate trade-off to be made. I explained that and why I frequently do not want those USE flags set, demonstrating that I want choice here. You can of course dismiss any concern which disagrees with your opinion as illegitimate. Please do not bother asking questions if that's your style. > Choice isn't dogma. Is there a difference between dogma and value? I understand choice to be a core value in Gentoo. Maybe that's wrong (now)? Core values are more important than pretty much anything else. Choice isn't always possible. That's not this case. If choice is indeed a core value then where choice is pretty easy (this case) in my mind there needs to be an overwhelmingly strong argument to conciously and intentionally disable choice. > > Just don't do it. Kthx. > > This kind of thing is nothing but irritating. Please don't do this. I'm sorry if it wasn't clear that "Just don't do it. Kthx." meant exactly what you wrote: This kind of thing (increase default USE-flags) is nothing but irritating. Please don't do this. Kind regards //Peter
