Chris,
I think I wasn't clear enough on that. An example: I also use PoseidonUML, but I don't start it from WebStart, although I have the possibility and I have done it several times. I see those links as a way to test or use the application if you are a simple user that doesn't know anything about installing an application. As soon as I have an application I use on a daily basis, I don't start it any more from WebStart, I download it and install it locally.
I agree with you about the need to add WebStart support to KDE/Gnome, Mozila, FireFox, etc., but I don't agree with you about giving a plain user the ability to customize their systems. I'm talking here and in my previous mail from an administrator point of view. Let's say we have a network with a lot of Gentoo boxes. You may control the configuration of those boxes as far as you don't provide portage access to your users, so they're not able to install software or change configuration files on their own. Let's say now you provide them with WebStart and they start to execute applications. You'll end up with a lot of uncontrolled boxes with software you even don't know about it, and users complaining about this or that not working properly. That's why I think WebStart should only be used under a controlled environment, from an administrator and package management point of view, and made all those comments about package mangement in my previous mail.
I don't know if the current specification or implementations of WebStart provide this, but I think that from this point of view the possibility of restricting the source of applications to be executed with WebStart would be very useful.
Regards Jose
Chris Aniszczyk escribi�:
On Mon, Mar 01, 2004 at 12:12:56PM +0100, Jose Gonz?lez G?mez wrote:
everybody with GPL or similar publish the source code of the Java application, but almost nobody provides a Java WebStart .jnlp file to launch its application from the web...
There's quite a bunch of places that use JNLP.
http://openjnlp.nanode.org/app-list.html http://www.up2go.net/upndown/index.jsp http://www.connectandwork.com/external/
I can name more if you like. Some big apps also run via jnlp (PoseidonUML is one I can think off the top of my head since I use it frequently).
I see a lot of reasons to include jnlp configuration. Because right now where it stands, I see none in Gentoo. I can attest to this because when I was messing with jnlp stuff on some new lab computers that I tossed Gentoo on, it seems it wasn't configured for it at all out of the box. No KDE/Gnome
support at all. There are quite a few implementations of jnlp, so you don't have to actually use sun's javaws.
I just see it as something that we will need to take care of in the future if you we want to provide users with the ability to customize their system
in anyway way they want to.
Cheers,
~ Chris
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