-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 02/25/2013 01:00 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2013 12:27:21 -0500 > "Gino!" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Firstly thanks for all your great responses... >> >> On 02/25/2013 09:26 AM, Greg KH wrote: >>> On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 01:05:01AM -0500, Gino! wrote: >>>> So, it seems like gentoo-sources loves EOL kernels.. >>>> can anybody tell me why this is, it seems like that would be a bad >>>> thing... I always move up to the latest amd64 stable, but 3.7.9 is >>>> super buggy (nvidia and aufs3 complain among others) >>> >>> What is "super buggy" about 3.7.9? Have you reported this anywhere? >>> >> I as a stable packages only, style gentoo user have an (perhaps >> unrealistic), expectation that kernels that go stable have some >> vetting process with all other stable packages, and I can expect no >> failed interactions between things.. this is not yet true with >> 3.7.9... > > This makes the stabilization process unnecessary long; again, it's the > responsibility of other packages to work with the kernel, not the other > way around. We have waited long enough (several 3.7 versions) for those > packages to be patched; and besides that we had to wait for nouveau to > somewhat become more reliable as well, since they did a major refactor > in early 3.7 that broke it for some people. > > Stabilizing more kernel versions but making sure they work together with > other packages is impossible with the limited kernel team we currently > have, remember that this has been just mpagano for a while [1] and that > out of everyone that responded [2] nobody else really stayed around. > > [1]: http://www.mpagano.com/blog/?p=165 > [2]: http://www.mpagano.com/blog/?p=167 > >>>> although I would feel allot more comfortable with something like >>>> 3.4.33!! but its at 3.4.9... >>>> >>>> Do you gentoo-sources folks recommend a particular release for >>>> Long Term Stable ongoing support??? >>> >>> If you have to have something like this, then use the versions that >>> upstream is saying is going to be "long term", meaning the 3.0 or >>> 3.4 releases. But note that new hardware will not work on these >>> releases, so you will be out of luck if you have really modern >>> hardware, sorry. >>> >>>> Thats the one i want to use. >>> >>> Why? What does something like this buy you in a rolling-release >>> distro like Gentoo? >> I would prefer to not constantly use new kernel implementations, >> sometimes new features come out, and I may need some old package, that >> depends on the older feature.. I would like for it to operate >> smoothly.. my most recent example of this would be changes to how >> wireless drivers are implemented, >> the new stuff is great but if my old packages don't work, its no good >> for me. >> I would like an (*slightly) older kernel that maintains security >> patches and maintenance repairs for a long period of time.. > > Then following 3.4 is the way to go, I'll hear for stabilization... > Thanks so much,
Yeah if you think its wise, more rapid stabilization on minor patches here would be a great incentive to stay with the 3.4 series.. Gino > > With kind regards, > > Tom Wijsman (TomWij) > Gentoo Developer > > E-mail address : [email protected] > GPG Public Key : 6D34E57D > GPG Fingerprint : C165 AF18 AB4C 400B C3D2 ABF0 95B2 1FCD 6D34 E57D > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlEtCL0ACgkQ4qXYIPju5+LHeQD/QIUFCGvYgzi9/uxdHvYG1b3J y73Pa040ZtvLf7SsCbMA/0Ejh3oJFk8kObip0YIyX3jORse9of7kbQZ0GWqN7ok5 =u+0E -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
