On 01-04-2018 20:29:59 +0200, Michał Górny wrote: > > > This essentially looks like ~700 lines of code to try to workaround > > > broken networking. I would rather try to do that using 5 lines of code > > > but that's just me, and my programs aren't enterprise quality. I just > > > hope it actually solves as many problems as it's going to introduce. > > > > The vast majority of this code is generic and reusable, and I do intend > > to reuse it. For example, the executor support will be an essential > > piece for the asyncio.AbstractEventLoop for bug 649588. > > Sure it is and sure you will. But tell me: who is going to maintain it > all? Because as far as I can see, we're still dealing with a bus factor > of one and all you're doing is making it worse. More code, more > complexity, more creeping featurism and hacks.
Well, well, well. This could be said about a lot of code, including your own. > Last time you went away, you left us with a horribly unmaintainable > package manager full of complexity, hacks and creeping featurism > and a Portage team whose members had barely any knowledge of the code. > Just when things started moving again, you came back and we're back to > square one. I don't see why this has to be made personal. In the olde days people just pushed whatever they needed, now it's reviewed and acked, so how can it be back to square one? > Today Portage once again is a one-developer project, full of more > complexity, more hacks and more creeping featurism. And we once again > have a bus factor of one -- one developer who apparently knows > everything, does everything and tries to be nice to everyone, except he > really ignores others, makes a lot of empty promises and consistently > makes the health of the project go from bad to worse. Errr, didn't you recently start your own fork with creeping featurism of its own because mainline was/is too slow? > So, please tell me: what happens when you leave again? How have you used > your time in the project? What have you done to make sure that > the project stays alive without you? Because as far as I can see, adding > few thousand of lines of practically unreviewed code every month does > not help with that. Why is this Zac's problem specifically? Isn't this a general problem of Gentoo? And isn't your attitude contributing in a large factor to the bus-factor getting down from 1 to 0? > I forked Portage because I didn't want to fight with you. When I forked > it, I declared that I will merge mainline changes regularly for > the benefit of my users. But after a week, I really start feeling like > that's going to be a really bad idea. Like it's time to forget about > mainline Portage as a completely dead end, and go our separate ways. So you fork. Like many forks, that is because people feel that it isn't going "their way". Yay. That doesn't make you "right". > I'm seriously worried about the future of Gentoo. I'd really appreciate > if you started focusing on that as well. I get that all this stuff looks > cool on paper but few months or years from now, someone will curse > 'whoever wrote that code' while trying to fix some nasty bug. Or get > things moving forward. Or implement EAPI 8. Perhaps it's time to look into the mirror. Thanks, Fabian -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level
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