I've switched off blackbox for now to openbox but also looking at fluxbox again. Other than waimea is it possible to somehow have a second silt? There were somethings about waimea I didn't like so I doubt I'll bother with it again. Also I tried sawfish and it was ok enough I suppose but not my thing.(for one for some reason bbpager wouldn't work) I then tried oroborous and tho it installed and said it was launching nothing happened. I thought it was a stand alone window manager or is there something I'm missing? I know it's gnome complient and stuff but I'm not running gnome. Other than that I'm liking the features of openbox. One last question tho on the blackbox family of window managers. Is there someway to make bbpannel always on top? When windows are maximized they are covering it. I've not seen anything in the config file to alter to change that problem.
-- Susie VE7 HFA [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://arienadean.tripod.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "The human heart feels things the eyes cannot see, and know what the mind cannot understand." - Robert Valett -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list