Timo,


No problem. Whenever somebody says "This works for me" it doesn't mean he thinks you are stupid nor necessarily he misses the point. It just mean "This works for me, maybe the problem is in another place". I just was trying to help you, and I hope I can finally do it. Let's see, in my case I get the following:

bit root # USE="kde qt arts alsa oss" emerge -evp licq | grep arts
[ebuild N ] kde-base/arts-1.2.0 +alsa -artswrappersuid +esd +mad +oggvorbis 970 kB
bit root # USE="kde qt -arts alsa oss" emerge -evp licq | grep arts
[ebuild N ] kde-base/arts-1.2.0 +alsa -artswrappersuid +esd +mad +oggvorbis 970 kB
bit root # USE="-kde -qt -arts alsa oss" emerge -evp licq | grep arts
*nothing*


Notice in the second case I have -arts in the use variable, but arts gets compiled. Maybe there is another package in the dependency tree that has arts as a needed dependency, and not as an optional dependency. Notice also that in the last case (-kde -qt -arts) arts disappears. So I just was trying to tell you that maybe there was something wrong in your configuration, maybe you thought you have correctly configured your use variable but you didn't... I really don't know. Anyway, take a look at emerge info, and you'll really know if your settings are really taken into account.

   Hope this helps, regards
   Jose

Timo Lindemann escribiÃ:

On Fri, 13 Feb 2004 10:21:11 +0100, Jose GonzÃlez GÃmez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi Jose,



Timo,


I'm installing Gentoo in a laptop and had a similar problem, but just adding "-kde -arts" to the USE variable in /etc/make.conf did the trick.

I stated quite explicitly that USE does NOT solve it. I stated quite clearly that portage needs to be reworked to some extent.
So what gives? I just want to choose to install only what's needed to run those damn programs I told emerge to make.


Sorry to sound rough, but you missed my point entirely.


Regards Jose

Timo Lindemann escribiÃ:

Hi all,

Everytime I install a Gentoo on a system, I curse and scream about one of the major flaws in portage.

Whenever I want just one program emerged, say, on a laptop using xfce4 on xfree, USE="-kde -esd -arts -alsa -oss":
I want to emerge anjuta, portage wants gnomelibs, which in turn want esd. It totally ignores my useflags, the fact that this notebook does not HAVE sound hardware. OK, that would be too much for portage to know, but the USE is ignored anyway. I just want to run anjuta with xfce4.
Okay, I think. Lets emerge all that shit, and get over with.
Next thing, I want licq. I pretend. Guess what appears on the list? artsd! I cant stand it, really. Gentoo would be such a nice distro, but it is ALL BLOATED. The fact that it is the best distro out there does make up to that, but it just would be NICER it didn't have to. So I suggest: Let there be a mode for Portage where all CRITICAL dependencies are shown, what the program I want NEEDS to run. I dont want to have an entire OS installed if I just want one program. artsd is not a dep from licq, but somehow entagled in that kde thing, which I dont WANT to have. So, a distinction needs to be made between USEFUL deps, or standard deps, and CRITICAL deps, or needed deps.


What do you think?

Regards,


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