Holly Bostick wrote: > Jesse Guardiani wrote: >> Holly Bostick wrote: >> >>>Jesse Guardiani wrote: >>>>Jans Han Xie wrote: >>>> > <snip> >> No, no package installed. I use the in-kernel version. >> >> >>>>>And pasting the error message when "/etc/init.d/alsasound restart" >>>>>will be more help :) >>>>There isn't one. It starts all of the modules except my snd-intel8x0 >>>>module. No error, other than the fact that it isn't doing it's job. >>>> >>>> >>>1) Try alsaconf. Maybe your card isn't being properly configured (so >>>alsasound doesn't know to load the module). >> >> Been there, done that. No change. Still doesn't load my module. >> >> >>>However, afaik, there is no "better workaround" than putting the module >>>in /etc/modules.d.autoload/kernel-2.6. After all, that is what that file >>>is for-- it *is* the "better workaround". My onboard sound chip (a VIA >>>8233) also requires semi-automatic loading in order to work properly; it >>>may have something to do with the fact that it *is* onboard sound, and >>>thus is related to the loading of other motherboard resources before it >>>can be detected. Is your intel8x0 also onboard, or is it a separate card? >> >> onboard. It's just annoying because if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound stop` >> then it unloads my soundcard module, but if I run `/etc/init.d/alsasound >> start` then it doesn't load it back in. Placing the module in the >> kernel-2.6 file helps at boot, but it does nothing to help this init.d >> case. >> > > OK, if the module is not loaded in the first place, then how does > stopping alsasound unload it?
It's currently being loaded at boot time by /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 > I have this sense that somewhere you said > something about "device busy" being displayed (but now I can't find it); Doesn't ring a bell. Different post maybe? > that message (if it exists) suggests that the device is being loaded by > the kernel before alsasound tries to load it. That would suggest that > the module is compiled as a module [M] and not directly into the kernel > [*], which, although it seems like it should be correct, never worked > properly for me. > > > Secondly, why are you stopping alsasound at all? Various reasons. Unstick a sound card while playing with bluetooth, test settings, etc... > Does sound work if you > just let things remain as set up after boot? Yes, but only if I place snd-intel8x0 in the kernel-2.6 file. > > What I would suggest is that you either: > > 1) Get a real sound card (I just replaced my onboard sound with a nice > CMI 8738 card, and Soundblaster Live!s of various stripes are available > for about the same price or less; I paid about Euro 30, but I could have > gotten something adequate for half that). It really helps to have a > distinct card available for detection by normal means, rather than a > "motherboard resource" which involves BIOS configuration as well as > kernel and OS configuration; Sorry, but that is a bit asinine. > 2) Confirm the sound chip's configuration in the kernel, and also > confirm the ALSA settings. Been there, done that. > 2b) Confirm your modules.autoload.d settings. Here was the > modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6 settings that worked to load my VIA 8233 > onboard sound without errors: > > # For example: > # 3c59x > #fw-loader > snd-mixer-oss > snd-pcm-oss > snd-seq > #snd-seq-oss (loaded by snd-seq, so commented out) > snd-via82xx > supermount (unrelated) > #via82-cxxx_audio (I tried using OSS for a while) > #ac97_codec (ditto) > gameport (onboard game port) > ns558 (analog settings for onboard game port) > sidewinder (game pad connected to onboard game port) > fglrx (unrelated) That's just it. I shouldn't have to put my sound card module in kernel-2.6 if it has already been detected by alsaconf. > 2c) Confirm your /etc/modules.d/alsa settings (maybe it's looking for > the wrong module or something; again, this is for my VIA 8233, but you > should see the point): No, it's correct. > 2d) Oh, and if your /etc/modules.d/alsa is correct, maybe you should run > 'update-modules' manually; alsaconf seems a bit dodgy to me when running > the setup scripts and unmuting the volumes. Been there, done that. > 3) And I can't help but ask-- are you *absolutely sure* that intel-8x0 > is the correct module for your onboard sound chip? What is the make and > model of the board? Uh, yes. Sound works fine. The only problem is that `/etc/init.d/alsasound start` doesn't auto load my sound card module. -- Jesse Guardiani, Systems Administrator WingNET Internet Services, P.O. Box 2605 // Cleveland, TN 37320-2605 423-559-LINK (v) 423-559-5145 (f) http://www.wingnet.net -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
