I think using the word "rules" might have been a poor choice of words
(on my part) :)...I think more so what I was thinking of was
guidelines for posting...To that end I think Nick Rout made the best
suggestion...ESRs doc on how to ask a question ;) Most Unix Geeks will
appreciate that one :)...

Reference:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

On Apr 8, 2005 9:58 AM, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > On Apr 8, 2005 1:07 PM, Jason Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > Martoni ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) scribbled:
> > > > Yeah, rules might be fine.
> > > > Will everyone follow them I wonder.
> > > > The risk with introducing strict rules for a discussion group (or list)
> > > > is
> > > > that, IMHO, increases the risk of starting flamewars.
> > > > People not expecting one or more, more or less polite pointers to
> > > > Google,
> > > > f.g.o and whatnot, might easily misunderstand those mails.
> > >
> > > Please qoute the relevant portions of messages you are replying to. Now
> > > I'm left with a sudden tightness in my chest at the thought of a control
> > > freak trying to place a bunch of unenforceable rules on the
> > > mailinglists. :)
> >
> > Oh - not to worry. Just people wanting some structure in their lives :)
> >
> > I suppose I meant to quote this:
> > >I think that we should make some rules for the list.
> >
> > But never got round to it.
> >
> > My experience is that strictish rules on forums/lists are seen by a number
> > of people "to be meant to be violated" - perhaps I've just been on all the
> > wrong lists (except Gentoo-users which I've found to be extremely civil in
> > comparison to too many).They also tend to bring forth the controll freaks
> > raving about enforcment of more or less intelligent rules. :(
> > All leading to bandwidth vasting flamewars.
> 
> agreed.  Some folks spend too much time inside the computer bubble
> (where control is absolute and results are black and white).  They then
> think the same strict solution-set can be applied to a group of people
> from all over the world with different personality types.  Isn't it
> "When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail"? :)
> 
> There's something to be said for law & order, especially pertaining to
> maintenance of a civilized society.  However, the assumed caveat is that
> the laws (rules, here) are enforceable.  If there are no means to
> effectively enforce a rule, then the presence of the rule (and
> half-assed attempts to enforce it) are worse than no rule.
> 
> Say there were rules on this list, and someone broke one (eg I said
> "ass" above, oops, I did it again :) ).  What could we do?  blacklist
> the email address?  Anyone got a gmail invite?  We haven't stopped the
> _person_ from posting, just forced them to use a different account.  And
> now they want to make a point.  Well, that's just peachy.  We just made
> the problem worse.
> 
> With the current setup, annoyances pop up, are mostly ignored, then fade
> out.  Effective deployment of the delete key is the best defense, IMO.
> An MUA (like mutt) that threads mail and allows for the deletion of
> entire threads with one keystroke is even better.
> </soapbox>
> 
> just my $0.02
> 
> Cooper.
> 
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