On 10/05/2010 10:01 AM, BRM wrote:
> ----- Original Message ----
> 
>> From: Alan McKinnon <alan.mckin...@gmail.com>
>> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
>> Cc: dhk <dhk...@optonline.net>
>> Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 7:34:02 AM
>> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dev-util/autotoolset
>>
>> Apparently, though unproven, at 12:33 on Tuesday 05 October 2010, dhk did 
>> opine thusly:
>>
>>> On 10/05/2010 05:28 AM, Alan McKinnon  wrote:
>>>> Apparently, though unproven, at 10:25 on Tuesday 05 October  2010, dhk did
>>>>
>>>> opine thusly:
>>>>> What  should I do about dev-util/autotoolset?  I use it every day for a
>>>  >> project, but today it looks like I'm being told to remove it.   What is
>>>>> the alternative?
>>>>>
>>>>> In  my package.keywords file I have "dev-util/autotoolset ~amd64"
>>>>>  unmasked since I use autotools for a project.
>>>>>
>>>>>  After the output of "emerge -uDNp world" this morning the following
>>>  >> message is displayed.
>>>>>
>>>>> !!! The  following installed packages are masked:
>>>>> -  dev-util/autotoolset-0.11.4-r1 (masked by: package.mask)
>>>>>  /usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
>>>>> # Diego E. Pettenò <flamee...@gentoo.org> (04 Oct  2010)
>>>>> #  on behalf of QA team
>>>>> #
>>>  >> # Ironically, it is misusing autotools (bug #255831). It was
>>>  >> # added in 2004 and never version bumped since; autotools
>>>  >> # have since evolved a fair amount, while this is based
>>>  >> # still on automake 1.6. Avoid keeping it around.
>>>>>  #
>>>>> # Removal on 2010-12-03
>>>>>
>>>>>  For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
>>>  >> man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.
>>>>>
>>>  >> As stated above, what should I "Avoid keeping it around?"  Is  it
>>>>> autotoolset, automake 1.6, ...?  Also, what's getting  removed on
>>>>> 2010-12-03?  If autotoolset is removed, what  should be used to build
>>>>> projects?
>>>>
>>>>  The text applies to autotoolset and the reason it is being removed. It  
> is
>>>> autotoolset that is not being kept around anymore.
>>>>
>>>> It's actually quite obvious once you calm down, get over your  fright, and
>>>> read the message.
>>>>
>>>> You do not  need autotoolset to build projects. You need autotools which
>>>> is not  the same thing.
>>>>
>>>>> Even though I have autotoolset  installed, search shows it as being
>>>>> masked.
>>>>>
>>>>> # emerge --search autotoolset
>>>>>  Searching...
>>>>> [ Results for search key : autotoolset ]
>>>  >> [ Applications found : 1 ]
>>>>>
>>>>> *   dev-util/autotoolset [ Masked ]
>>>>>
>>>>>        Latest version available: 0.11.4-r1
>>>>>        Latest version installed: 0.11.4-r1
>>>>>       Size  of files: 1,133 kB
>>>>>       Homepage:       http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
>>>>>        Description:   colection of small tools to simplify project
>>>  >> 
>>>>> development with autotools
>>>>>
>>>  >>       License:       GPL-2
>>>  >> 
>>>>> What to do now?
>>>>
>>>> Why are  you worried? You use autotools not autotoolset. Let the thing be
>>>>  removed, After 6 years of no updates you shouldn't be using it anyway.
>>>
>>> So are you saying if I remove autotoolset that I'll still have  autoconf,
>>> automake, and the rest; and everything will work the  same?  I thought
>>> all the autotools were in autotoolset.  I  guess I don't know the
>>> difference between autotools and autotoolset and  what they are made up of.
>>
>>
>> autotools != autotoolset
>>
>> The  description from eix that you yourself posted tells you as much.
>>
>> Run  "equery files autotoolset" and see what is in the package. Decide for 
>> yourself if you want to keep it and if so move the ebuild to your local 
>> overlay where you can maintain it for yourself.
> 
> Reading over the website it seems almost as if it is a fork of GNU autotools.
> 
> http://autotoolset.sourceforge.net/
> 
> But to the original question - if they do not remain installed then you can 
> always install them individually as well.
> 
> Ben
> 
> 
> 

I thought all the auto tools were in the autotoolset, that's not the
case.  It looks like the only tool I use in autotoolset is acmkdir.  If
I remove autotoolset, how can I get acmkdir back?  Even though it's not
necessary, it's a nice tool for starting a project.

Thanks,

dhk


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