On Saturday 22 January 2011 05:45:27 Walter Dnes wrote:
>   As soon as some textmode applications in xterm stop, their output gets
> wiped, and the xterm screen is restored to what it looked like before I
> launched the app.  Somebody thought they were being "helpful"; then
> again, so did the designers of "Clippy".  I don't know how many updates
> ago the behaviour changed, but here's what happens...

Hmm ... as far as I can recall with xterm/aterm this behaviour for some 
commands is the expected/default behaviour.  I've looked into it for things 
like top et al when launched like so on the desktop from e.g. fluxbox's menu:

  aterm +sb -e top -d 2

Pressing q to quit top closes the aterm.  Completely.  :-(

I have not found a solution for it.

With xterm I would use the -hold option to stop xterm from collapsing like so:

  xterm -geometry 144x30 -bg black -fg green -hold -e 'ps auxf'

Thereafter I use the window decoration to close xterm, because no other 
keyboard inputs are accepted by it.


>   Let's say I'm having a problem with packet loss to/from a certain
> internet server.  I would run "mtr" which gives an ongoing enhanced
> traceroute display.  When it gets to the router that's dropping packets
> I would hit "Q" and mtr quits.

That's how it always worked here.


> Before the update
> =================
>   I would copy/paste the mtr output into an email, and send it off to
> whomever, with the output showing the packet-loss stats.

Are you sure you were not previously using the -r option to report the output 
on the screen and now you don't?


> After the update
> ================
>   As soon as mtr quits, its output gets wiped, and the xterm screen is
> restored to the state it was in before mtr was launched... helpful NOT!

try this:

  mtr -c 3 -r 123.456.78.90

>   I've discovered that I can suspend it with {CTRL-S}, but I shouldn't
> have to resort to that.  Using Google, I found references to
> "man termcap", which stated that this behaviour was controlled by
> entries in /etc/termcap.  Despite the fact that I have the termcap man
> page on my system, I do *NOT* have /etc/termcap.  Does anyone have a
> sample /etc/termcap (or will ~/.termcap work?) to stop the screen
> restore after a text application quits?

I don't have /etc/termcap here ... and wouldn't know how to use it to be 
honest.
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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