On Wed, May 25, 2011 at 10:00:03AM +0200, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 11:31:40PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote > > > No, I think you need to get real. It's 2011, what did you expect? > > Here's what I don't expect. I run a tight ship on my machine. I > currently have gnumeric and AbiWord and libreoffice-bin running uncer > icewm. In order to get "emerge -p app-office/kword" to actually start, > I had to... > > !) remove "sys-apps/dbus" from /etc/portage/package.mask > > 2) add the following to /etc/portage/package.use > > x11-libs/qt-sql qt3support > x11-libs/qt-core qt3support ssl exceptions > x11-libs/qt-gui qt3support accessibility dbus > x11-libs/qt-qt3support accessibility kde > x11-libs/qt-svg accessibility > x11-libs/qt-opengl qt3support > x11-libs/qt-webkit kde > sys-block/parted device-mapper > sys-fs/udev extras > sys-auth/consolekit policykit > x11-libs/qt-declarative qt3support > > 3) and here is the 390 megabytes of stuff to emerge... > gebuild N ] dev-libs/libgpg-error-1.10 USE="-common-lisp -nls > -static-libs" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libical-0.43 > [ebuild N ] dev-util/boost-build-1.42.0 USE="-examples -python" > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/sdparm-1.03 > [ebuild N ] sys-power/pm-quirks-20100619 > [ebuild N ] sys-block/eject-2.1.5-r2 USE="-nls" > [ebuild N ] kde-base/oxygen-icons-4.6.2 USE="(-aqua) (-kdeenablefinal) > (-kdeprefix)" > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/dbus-1.4.6 USE="X -debug -doc (-selinux) > -static-libs -test" > [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/eigen-2.0.13 USE="-debug -doc -examples" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libassuan-2.0.1 USE="-static-libs" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/cyrus-sasl-2.1.23-r1 USE="-authdaemond -berkdb > -crypt -gdbm -java -kerberos -ldap -mysql -ntlm_unsupported_patch -pam > -postgres -sample -sqlite -srp -ssl -urandom" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libksba-1.2.0 USE="-static-libs" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libgcrypt-1.4.6 USE="-static-libs" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/pth-2.0.7-r2 USE="-debug" > [ebuild N ] app-admin/eselect-boost-0.3 > [ebuild NS ] app-text/docbook-xml-dtd-4.2-r2 [4.3-r1] > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libpcre-8.12 USE="bzip2 (unicode) zlib -cxx > -recursion-limit -static-libs" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/libXScrnSaver-1.2.1 USE="-static-libs" > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kde-env-4.6.2 USE="(-aqua) (-kdeenablefinal) > (-kdeprefix)" > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/attr-2.4.44 USE="-nls" > [ebuild N ] dev-cpp/clucene-0.9.21b-r1 USE="threads -debug -doc > -static-libs" > [ebuild NS ] virtual/libusb-0 [1] > [ebuild N ] virtual/eject-0 > [ebuild N ] app-crypt/pinentry-0.8.0 USE="-caps -gtk -ncurses -qt4 > -static" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/dbus-glib-0.92 USE="-bash-completion -debug -doc > -static-libs -test" > [ebuild N ] app-crypt/gnupg-2.0.17 USE="bzip2 -adns -caps -doc -ldap > -nls -openct -pcsc-lite (-selinux) -smartcard -static" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/boost-1.42.0-r2 USE="-debug -doc -eselect -icu -mpi > -python -static-libs -test -tools" > [ebuild N ] app-misc/strigi-0.7.1 USE="exif -clucene -dbus -debug -fam > -hyperestraier -inotify (-log) -qt4 -test" > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/acl-2.2.49 USE="(-nfs) -nls" > [ebuild N ] sys-power/pm-utils-1.4.1 USE="-alsa -debug -networkmanager > -ntp" VIDEO_CARDS="intel -radeon" > [ebuild R ] sys-fs/udev-151-r4 USE="extras*" > [ebuild N ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.3.0 USE="-common-lisp -pth" > [ebuild N ] sys-fs/lvm2-2.02.73-r1 USE="(-clvm) (-cman) -lvm1 -readline > (-selinux) -static" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libatasmart-0.17 USE="-static-libs" > [ebuild N ] sys-block/parted-2.3 USE="device-mapper -debug -nls > -readline (-selinux)" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.7.2-r1 USE="exceptions qt3support ssl > (-aqua) -debug -glib -iconv -jit -optimized-qmake -pch -private-headers" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-sql-4.7.2 USE="qt3support (-aqua) -debug > -exceptions (-firebird) -freetds -iconv -mysql -odbc -pch -postgres -sqlite" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-script-4.7.2 USE="(-aqua) -debug -exceptions > -iconv -jit -pch -private-headers" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-test-4.7.2 USE="(-aqua) -debug -exceptions > -iconv -pch" > [ebuild N ] dev-util/automoc-0.9.88 > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-dbus-4.7.2 USE="(-aqua) -debug -exceptions -pch" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-xmlpatterns-4.7.2 USE="(-aqua) -debug -pch" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/soprano-2.6.0 USE="-clucene -dbus -debug -doc > -raptor -redland -test -virtuoso" > [ebuild N ] app-crypt/qca-2.0.3 USE="(-aqua) -debug -doc -examples" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libattica-0.2.0 USE="-debug" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-gui-4.7.2 USE="accessibility dbus mng qt3support > tiff (-aqua) -cups -debug -egl -exceptions -glib -gtkstyle -nas -nis -pch > -private-headers -raster -trace -xinerama" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-qt3support-4.7.2 USE="accessibility kde (-aqua) > -debug -exceptions -pch -phonon" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-svg-4.7.2 USE="accessibility (-aqua) -debug > -exceptions -iconv -pch" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-opengl-4.7.2 USE="qt3support (-aqua) -debug -egl > -exceptions -pch" > [ebuild N ] media-libs/phonon-4.5.0 USE="(-aqua) -debug -gstreamer > -pulseaudio -vlc -xine" > [ebuild N ] dev-libs/libdbusmenu-qt-0.6.2 USE="-debug -test" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-webkit-4.7.2 USE="kde (-aqua) -dbus -debug > -exceptions -jit -pch" > [ebuild N ] x11-libs/qt-declarative-4.7.2-r1 USE="qt3support (-aqua) > -debug -exceptions -pch -private-headers -webkit" > [ebuild N ] sys-auth/polkit-0.101-r1 USE="-debug -doc -examples -gtk > (-introspection) -kde -nls -pam" > [ebuild N ] sys-auth/consolekit-0.4.4 USE="policykit -debug -doc -pam > -test" > [ebuild N ] sys-power/upower-0.9.8 USE="-debug -doc (-introspection) > -ios" > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/sg3_utils-1.29 > [ebuild N ] sys-apps/rescan-scsi-bus-1.29 > [ebuild N ] sys-fs/udisks-1.0.2-r1 USE="-bash-completion -debug -doc > -nls -remote-access" > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdelibs-4.6.2-r3 USE="bzip2 mmx opengl sse sse2 > -3dnow -acl -alsa (-altivec) (-aqua) -bindist -debug -doc -fam -handbook > -jpeg2k (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix) -kerberos -lzma -nls -openexr > -policykit -semantic-desktop -spell -ssl -test -udev -zeroconf" > [ebuild N ] app-office/koffice-data-2.3.3 USE="(-aqua) > (-kdeenablefinal)" > [ebuild N ] kde-base/kdepimlibs-4.6.2-r1 USE="(-aqua) -debug -handbook > (-kdeenablefinal) (-kdeprefix) -ldap -semantic-desktop -test" > [ebuild N ] app-office/koffice-libs-2.3.3 USE="opengl (-aqua) -crypt > -debug (-kdeenablefinal) -openexr -reports -test" > [ebuild N ] app-office/kword-2.3.3 USE="(-aqua) -debug (-kdeenablefinal) > -wpd" >
For people already running kde it's ok, but for the rest of us it's a bit ridiculous, isn't it? I used to use a few "k" apps in the 3 days, they were small and easily integrated into the system. Now kde is like it's own OS, so they've basically eliminated their apps from consideration of non-kde users. Not that it matters much to me, one of the strengths of gentoo is how many ways there are to do a given task. But there are quite a few kde zealots who seem to be completely unaware of what we mean by "fast, light, standalone". I guess some people didn't experience the 80s or 90s. :) -- caveat utilitor ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤
