On Wednesday 29 Feb 2012 16:27:50 Alex Schuster wrote: > Peter Humphrey writes: > > On Tuesday 28 February 2012 11:23:40 Alex Schuster wrote: > > > Peter Humphrey writes: > > > > Now can anyone tell me why clicking the first link in this e-mail > > > > opened it in Konqueror and the second in Firefox? > > > > > > Because KDE is so weird all over the place. > > > > Well I just hope the team get it sorted out soon. > > I'm waiting since KDE 4.2. And I believe it will never happen. Yes, > things are getting better, and more things get fixed than break by > updates. But still KDE4 has so many bugs and annoyances, nearly every day > some weird things happen. > > > I can't stand any of > > the Gnomes and the lighter desktops are just too thin on features. > > Me too. I _like_ KDE. If only things were more stable. I do not need any > new features, I'd prefer the existing ones to work as they should. > Look at Dolphin for example, the file manager. I expect such a thing to > just work. But until 4.8 it didn't, it had some bugs that made it nearly > unusable for me. Like the effect that after dragging files to a 2nd > panel, Dolphin acted as if the mouse button was pressed, marking all > files, and scrolling till the end when the mouse leaves the Dolphin > window. Believe me, this is very annoying when copying/moving many files > around. And don't press del to delete the files you copied, you might > put all files in that directory to the trash. > The scrolling behaviour was also annoying, I drag a file to the > destination folder, which is near the top, and just when I release, the > folder started to scroll away and the file is moved into another folder. > Both bugs seem to be fixed in 4.8, and now Dolphin is better than the > Windows XP explorer, finally. > Of course, there was another bug introduced, couldn't reproduce it yet, > and it does not happen often. All stuff scrolls down to the bottom then, > I cannot scroll up, but with wild clicking on all mouse buttons it > finally stops. > > Another example of these weird problems, just because it happened today: > I copied 100 MB via FTP using Dolphin. Then I got an error dialog, there > was a problem writing the file. Dolphin did not update the content, so I > could not see how far the upload went. After some F5 pressing, it said > "internal error, please send a detailed bug report". > Seems there was a problem renaming the file after download, I had to > remove the '.part' suffix manually. > > No big deal, but such problems happen all over the time when I use KDE > applications. Some errors are reproduceable, and I can avoid them, but > many things just happen once. > > If you are an experienced user, you can live with that - as I said, I > still like KDE, and its great features. But for the inexperienced user > like my mom KDE is totally unusable, as very basic features often do not > work. Like, logging out. I put Gnome on her notebook, so I do not have to > help her every day when yet another problem arises. > > > > > I can't see any material difference between the two links. > > > > > > Yes, there is none. > > > > > > This doesn't happen here, but I'm using the new KMail. > > > > I'm not going to that version until it works. It was only careful > > backing up that avoided losing half my e-mails. As it was, the basic > > functions of an e- mail client were almost completely absent. > > I'm using Claws mainly, and KMail2 for stuff like encryption or local > mail folders that I did not (yet?) spend the time to set up with Claws. I > migrated KDEPIM stuff for three times, and it never worked well, and > always took me hours at least to get a working setup. This is just > unbelieveable. And I can be happy, because I did not lose any mails - > probably because I use IMAP only. > > And this is so sad. Generally, I like the idea of Akonadi. And I see > some advantages - for example, Claws does not respond while it is checking > for new mails, and it seems to do this so very often just when I want to > see a new mail. KDE does this in the background. But there are far too > many problems with this. So many people were bitten by this. And email is > such an important issue. BTW, since 4.8, at every login I get messages > that some calendar stuff did not get configured, migrated or whatever. > Good thing I don't use it much, so I just do not care. But would I really > entrust my important personal data to KDEPIM applications? Probably not. > > Wonko
I could echo most of what you raised here and add to it (because kmail will just not work for me without major failures on POP3 & IMAP4 and korganizer is seriously broken when trying to import and merge calendars) - but I won't. What I don't understand is why couldn't we stay with 4.2 or which ever version was broadly working and keep all these dev wet-dreams for testing purposes only. If it takes them 3 years to arrive at a stable (read = functioning) product then we can start then and only then bringing it sloooowly in the stable tree. -- Regards, Mick
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