On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:42 PM, Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 7:54 PM, Mark Knecht <markkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Paul Hartman >> <paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 5:14 PM, Mark Knecht <markkne...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Paul Hartman >>>> <paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:51 PM, Michael Mol <mike...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Paul Hartman >>>>>> <paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 2:56 PM, Neil Bothwick <n...@digimed.co.uk> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> On Tue, 1 May 2012 12:30:11 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Notice the (-win32codecs) flag. Seems to me (on this system anyway) >>>>>>>>> they are hard masked off? I tried adding the flag to package.use but >>>>>>>>> emerge won't enable the darn thing... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You need to unmask the USE flag first, by adding -win32codecs >>>>>>>> to /etc/portage/profile/use.mask >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If he is using amd64 he can't use win32codecs unless he uses a 32-bit >>>>>>> mplayer/ffmpeg. AFAIK. >>>>>> >>>>>> Wouldn't using multilib work around this? >>>>> >>>>> I think he would still need to compile a 32-bit mplayer/ffmpeg (in a >>>>> 32-bit chroot) to be able to make use of them. Multilib would let him >>>>> run 32-bit mplayer or ffmpeg binaries (which themselves would be able >>>>> to use the 32-bit DLLs). But I don't think 64-bit mplayer/ffmpeg can >>>>> call 32-bit DLLs. >>>>> >>>>> There is an amd64codecs package containing the 64-bit codecs, but it >>>>> has been masked and made obsolete by the fact that mplayer/ffmpeg can >>>>> natively do most (or all?) of those codecs these days. >>>>> >>>> >>>> And presumably for all the same reasons, if I cannot play them I >>>> cannot convert them. >>>> >>>> Ah, a world full of unspecified, proprietary vendor specific file >>>> formats hidden in old dlls... Ain't it a fine world we live in? >>>> >>>> Sort of painful to start maintaining a 32-bit chroot just to handle >>>> this sort of thing. I suspect there's some freeware for the Windows >>>> world that might allow me to do the conversion in a VM. I'll start >>>> looking for that. The web site that advertised conversion didn't work >>>> as it bombed out after an hour. >>> >>> There used to be a 32-bit mplayer-bin package in portage that would >>> have made it simple, but that disappeared some time ago. >>> >>>> Maybe there's some simple binary install I could do - Fedora or >>>> Ubuntu, etc. - but my concern there is that those binaries might not >>>> play well inside my 64-bit Gentoo environ... >>> >>> If you can find a statically-linked 32-bit mplayer somewhere, and >>> emerge the win32codecs package on your machine, I think it has a >>> chance of working. >>> >> >> Actually, going back to the title of the thread, I don't need to watch >> wmv files in 64-bit. I really only need to _convert_ them to mp4 so >> that I could watch them using xine, etc. or externally on the Kindle. >> >> Maybe a 32-bit Gentoo chroot that doesn't maintain any desktop or X11, >> etc. could work? If I could convert the files at the command line >> using ffmpeg in 32-bit then that would be pretty manageable in terms >> of Gentoo work, assuming the ffmpeg package can be built as without >> any GUI stuff? > > I was just thinking that. I played with a chroot briefly just before > inara and kaylee bit it, and it seemed pretty trivial. Were it me, > that'd be the next thing I'd try. (But then, compiling is cheap for > me) >
I think I'll try it in a Virtualbox VM first I instead of a chroot. That's pretty easy to deal with. Easy to back up. Easy to move to a different system down the road. No disk partitions, etc. Biggest issue for me is likely to be that I haven't done a 32-bit install in at least 6 years. No idea what to watch out for but I doubt it's any big deal. No idea how the 32-bit VM really does 32-bit when it's running on a 64-bit processor that's doing 64-bit all the time but I guess that's why we pay these Intel & Oracle people the big bucks, right? ;-) And if I end up needing X in the 32-bit environment for some reason it will be easy to add that down the road. It's a real drag about the hassles your machines have been going through. I hope you get by that soon. Cheers, Mark
