> >> NAT behind a home router is bad, too. For IPv4, it's only necessary > >> because there aren't enough IPv4 addresses to let everyone have a unique > >> one. > > > > The best real reason for moving to IPV6 is address space (or lack > > thereof, in the case of IPV4). The people who are truly interested in > > speeding up IPV6 adoption should do their best to shut up the internet > > hippies who constantly rant and rave about how "NAT is evil". Don't let > > the cause get distracted by that unrelated issue. Focus on the core > > issue. > >
I completely agree divide and conquer tactics. > > You are being over-simplistic. > > Lack of IPv4 address space *caused* NAT to happen, the two are > inextricably intertwined. Even worse, people now have NAT conflated with > all sorts of other things. Like for example NAT and security. > NAT was around way earlier and may I state again also that I have externally facing servers and games machines behind NAT. So are you saying that you think it is good for every machine to be in a DMZ, few chosen ones yes. I disagree completely as I do with the usefullness of push-email. > NAT is the context of an IPv6 discussion is *very* relevant, it's one of > the points you have to raise to illustrate what bits inside people's > heads needs to be identified and changed. > > Until you change the content of people's heads, IPv6 is just not going > to happen. NAT has more uses than those two, NAT type of functionality is apparently desired by some ipv6 networks to allow easier ISP migration. It's true NAT distracts from the bad points of ipv6 and which is the only part irrelevent for ipv4 modded to work with a larger address space (ipv5). I wonder if this is an example of how these technologies can get so convoluted? -- _______________________________________________________________________ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) _______________________________________________________________________