James schreef:
> Holly Bostick <motub <at> planet.nl> writes:
>>> James schreef:
>>> Say 'Hello, to my little friend'
>>>
>>> arpscan
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ish.cx/~jason/arpscan/
>>>
>>>
>>> Sure would be nice if is was ported to an ebuild......
>>
>> Some reason you can't submit one to b.g.o (if that hasn't been done
>> already)?
>
> Hello Holly,
>
> I'm not sure what 'b.g.o.' refers to, (sorry I don't get out much).
bugs.gentoo.org, the traditional first stop for new ebuilds wanting to
make their way into Portage.
>
> If your saying that why don't I make a formal request, well, I figure
> I've already requested too much (jffnms, updated zoneminder, netenv)
> None of which is completed (unmasked). I figure I've worn out my
> welcome at gentoo.*....
????
Where have you been doing this requesting? What do you mean by 'none of
which is completed (unmasked)'?
and where is gentoo.* (since ebuild requests are properly made at
bugs.gentoo.org)?
>
> I've been 'schooled' several times that I need to read up on creating
> ebuilds, and start contributing (actually I agree with this sort of
> public spanking...)
>
> Contributing ebuils is on my to_do list, but, I have yet to get a
> project completed. I'm a little 'gun_shy' as to receiving another
> disertation on my ineptness.......
That's what overlays are for; take a similar ebuild, copy it to your
overlay, modify it to your needs, try it out.
If it works, then submit a bug to b.g.o and attach the ebuild so that
others can try it out under different conditions, thus exposing any bugs.
A lot of the time an ebuild can be copied and adapted with only minor
changes that even I can do (and I can't code my way out of a paper bag,
but I've got a credit in a ChangeLog, of which I'm very proud ;) , since
I can't code my way out of a paper bag).
Nobody beats you up for 'trying' around here, although people will tell
you if you make stupid mistakes that you should have been able to avoid
by reading the docs, and everybody isn't the highest paragon of
politeness. But
usually people thank you for trying, and help you improve. Certainly if
you try, and then say, "OK, I got this far, but I'm over my head at this
point," people will leap to your assistance.
But nobody appreciates requests that increase their workload as if the
user has some inborn right to it ('gimme, gimme, gimme')-- though
sometimes, a request is interesting enough to somebody with some free
time on their hands that they do it anyway (usually if it's simple).
>
> So when I'm confident that I can contribute ebuilds, I'll let your
> and the 'greater gentoo' community know.
How are you supposed to be confident in your ability to do something if
you never do it because you're not confident in your ability to succeed?
>
Holly
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