On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Nuno Silva <nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt> wrote: > On 2013-03-22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Nuno Silva <nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt> wrote: >>> On 2013-03-22, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> >>>> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 7:45 PM, João Matos <jaon...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> Hi list, >>>>> >>>>> do you know some guide to switch form systemd to openrc, or keep both? I >>>>> googled and I didn't find. >>>>> >>>>> The motivation is that I'm studing many server stuff, and I'm tired of >>>>> search for alternatives to systemd (that is really good). I also >>>>> set up some >>>>> servers, using openrc on them, so, sometimes I like to reproduce the >>>>> configuration o my machine. >>>>> >>>>> If possible, I prefer to keep both. If not, I'll switch back to openrc. >>>>> >>>>> I've enable the openrc user flag, updated the system, I created a grub >>>>> entrace, and everything seems to work pretty well on openrc, but I cant >>>>> start the X. "no screens found", but dbus, udev and consolekit are started >>>>> without error. >>>>> >>>>> Everything is working with systemd. >>>> >>>> For "server stuff", you should have no problem. If the machine where >>>> you want to have both systemd and OpenRC also works as a desktop >>>> workstation, right now that is not possible; there are several desktop >>>> packages that cannot decide at run time if they use systemd (actually, >>>> logind) or ConsoleKit (polkit being the most obvious). >>> >>> Are these packages essential or the like? I don't think my desktop >>> systems have dependencies either on systemd or polkit/consolekit. >> >> If you don't need user session monitoring for anything (which is what >> ConsoleKit and logind provides), nor interactive privilege granting >> (which is what polkit provides), then I believe you will have no > > Thanks. Now *that* is what I call explaining something in a nutshell :-) > >> problems switching OpenRC and systemd withouth needing to recompile >> anything. However, that means no upower and no udisks at least; GNOME >> cannot run without any of those. XFCE needs them if the udev USE flag >> is enabled, which is enabled by default in Gentoo desktop profiles, >> and in KDE the three of them are optional dependencies turned on by >> default. You can turn them of in XFCE and KDE, but you kinda lose >> functionality without them. > > I do indeed remember having to fight the KDE use flags so that I could > pull kdelibs without pulling the whole set of u* things someone decided > that were required for a desktop environment (the fun thing being that I > wasn't even using KDE as a DE). > > But I hope you don't mean the GNOME *libs* will be requiring > logind/Consolekit/... in the near future? That would cause me some > trouble, as I rely on evince a lot.
No, only the core desktop, AFAIK. Regards. -- Canek Peláez Valdés Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México
